Note.
Mans taxonomy may not concur with Adams.
[Insert Genesis 2:19, Jonah 1:17 and Matthew 12:40 here]
If the Bible calls a whale a fish then a fish it is.
And a bat a bird for that matter.
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Listen carefully, FoeHammer:
A. Whale. Is. Not. A. Fish.
A. Bat. Is. Not. A. Bird.
Both. Are. Mammals.
Sorry for the format, guys, but I figured all those arguing with Foe's idiotic post would already know these things.
It looks like a bad case of Fundie Bible Syndrome.
Denies testable evidence patently obvious to all in favor of non-testable patently false claims made in the scriptures of iron-age tribesmen.
Yup, that's FBS, alright.
I'm sorry, but your Fundie may have to be put to sleep.
Yep. Pi=3, the Earth is flat, the Sun is made of coal, snakes talk and men live to see their 900th birthday. Hey, why stop there? [/sarcasm]
And this is what happens when you don't understand how translation works or how languages shift.
Seriously, what's so hard about understanding that there was a linguistic category in Biblical Hebrew for "things that swim in the water", which a whale fits into, that got translated into English at a time when "fish" meant "things that swim in the water" and it does not mean that a whale is a fish, in the modern meaning of the word fish.
How dumb do you have to be to not get this? Apparently so dumb that you might think a 15th century translation of the Bible into English is the most true and the only divine version of the Bible and that all words in English meant the same thing 400 years ago. So basically yes, a fundie.
And red is blue, day is night, etc, etc.
Just because the big fairy says it is, doesn't make it so.
There are certain qualifications a species must make in order to be a mammal.
1. Milk Producing. Female whales do have mammary glands, like all mammals do. Fish do not.
2. Warm Bloodedness. Fish are cold blooded (save for sharks). Whales are warm-blooded.
3. Hair/Fur. All mammals have fur, or some remnants thereof. Whales have this too. It's very coarse, but it's there. Fish have no fur whatsoever.
Hooray, I don't have to worry about buying dolphin safe tuna.
Beast of prey - you forgot that whole being gill-less and breathing through the blowhole thing too.
Also very, very few fish give birth to live young, and those that do don't have a placenta, they just store their fertilized eggs internally to guard them better.
...other things that are "true", snakes used to walk and talk, pigs can be possessed by demons, donkeys talk, water shoots out of rocks when you hit them, UFO's, we have a flat earth, a geocentric solar system, people can turn into salt, hair contains one's physical strength, angel rapers creep through towns, zombies exist, god encouraged cannibalism, people can live for days inside a whale, and let's not forget horse-like locusts with human heads, women's hair, lion's teeth, and scorpion's tails, animals from god's own, secret stash.
Mans taxonomy may not concur with Adams.
No kidding.
You keep calling whales fish and bats birds if that makes you happy. It won't make a blind bit of difference to the whales, bats, fish or birds. Their evolutionary history will be unchanged by your denial.
By the way, are apostrophes satanic or something?
Hmmmm....
Isn't the bible proving that God is a fish?
fundy logic on:
A fish is a fish.
A whale is a fish.
Everything that swims in water is a fish.
I go to the pool and the sea at times and do some swimming. Ergo: I am a fish.
I was made after the image of God. Ergo: God is a fish.
Btw: Wood swims, pumice stone swims.
Ergo: trees and rocks are fish.
Swans swim, ergo birds are fish and therefore also bats are fish.
The continents swim (although on magma). So what are they?
/fundy logic off
Man, that whole reasoning sounds very fishy. Maybe that is where the Jesus fish comes from.
And insects have four legs. The Bible says so, so it must be true. Evilutionists are liars when they say insects don't have four legs. They even went to the trouble of gluing fake legs on to every insect in existence to do this![/sarcasm] You beat me to it.
If the Bible calls a whale a fish then a fish it is
The Bible calls it a fish in one place (Jonah) and a whale in another (Matthew). Since the two passages were written in two different languages then translated into a third, it's not clear that either "fish" or "whale" is the proper translation of the originals. Since Matthew obviously had access to the Jonah passage in order to quote from it, the simplest explanations are either (a) Jonah was mistranslated either by Matthew or the KJV translators; or (b) Matthew had a copy of Jonah, now lost, that said "whale".
If the Bible calls a whale a fish then a fish it is.
And whales breath air, have live young and lactate. Therefore some fish have live young, breathe air and lactate. It is only heretical modern science that wants to limit fish to gilled, egg laying, cold blooded vertebrates.
And a bat a bird for that matter.
And bats have fur, have live young and lactate. Therefore, some birds have live young, fur and lactation. It is only heretical modern science that wants to limit birds to feathered, egg laying creatures with wings.
See? The no true scotsman defense at work again.
FoeHammer,
Does the bible tell us if mastercheif is a human or a cyborg?
Neither, he's a furry :P
Never mind all that shit, FoeHammer, where the fuck are those bat eggs I sent you out for?
Reminds me of a story my mother told me about a few of her pupils who thought that they had found a bat egg in a cave, during a school trip. Of course, unlike FoeHammer, these kids had the excuse of being about 6 or 7 years old...
yes, because nothing is ever redefined in a 2000 year span. Why, just the other day, i used the expression "rofl" to mean that i was literally rolling on the floor after a comic accident with a lighter (remember, stop, drop, and rofl kids).
So then are people with dark skin still called slaves? (spoiler alert: No)
Whales and fish are very different. Whales breathe air, and are warm-blooded and give milk to their young.
Fish are cold-blooded, and breathe in water, and don't give milk to their young.
And birds have feathers, and bats have membranous wings.
“If the Bible calls a whale a fish then a fish it is.”
But biologists don’t just CALL it a whale, a mammal, they have several definitions. Whales fit one and REALLY don’t fit the ‘fish’ one.
Bible just lists shit, no explanation, no definitions.
Same for morality. Doesn’t say WHY you need to respect your mother/father, so it’s not useful in figuring out if you should respect an abusive mother/father.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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