I believe there are actually two, identical moons that rotate the earth, one exactly opposite the other. The Moon actually orbits at half the speed we think it is and is closer than we believe. That is why we get TWO TIDES per day and not just the one we would get if there were just one moon.
http://blogs.nationalgeographic.com/ ...two-moons.html
There is actually one real moon (that the astronauts landed on) and a fake spaceship moon, positioned at exactly the opposite side of the earth. That is why we never see two moons at once.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?clien ...L5CJhQfj84DICg
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Now we can't even trust the moon????
Seriously, if that's all you can find to be paranoid about, you don't have a lot of imagination.
OK, you got me. This is a conspiracy theory I've never heard before.
And please, please tell me exactly who it was who built this fake "spaceship moon" which is positioned exactly on the opposite side of the earth? And please tell me how, if we do have two moons which have exactly opposite orbits of the earth, we never see one moon rising when the other is setting? If there were two moons, you'd be able to see them both, one on the western horizon and one on the eastern. Or at the very least, you'd see the moon in the western sky, and a few hours later it would all of a sudden be in the eastern sky.
The OP correctly points out that we have two
tides per day and not the one you would expect from a single moon.This is known as the 'Tide paradox'
and could not be explained until Einstein came up with the General Theory of Relativity.Put simply the one moon attracts the water on the nearest side of the earth while simultaneously repelling it on the other,so giving two high tides every 24 hours.
I think the OP needs to read a good physics textbook.
The OP correctly points out that we have two
tides per day and not the one you would expect from a single moon.This is known as the 'Tide paradox'
and could not be explained until Einstein came up with the General Theory of Relativity.Put simply the one moon attracts the water on the nearest side of the earth while simultaneously repealing it on the other,so giving two high tides every 24 hours.
I think the OP needs to read a good physics textbook.
And that's why, barely an hour after one moon sets in the west, the other one pops up in the east, instead of none showing up at all for over 12 hours.
Here's a trick: Have two people, each holding a bowling ball at your eye level, stand on opposite sides of you about a foot away. Stare straight ahead while the two of them walk around you in a tight circle, and count how many times you see one of the bowling balls. After a minute, lose one of the people, but have the other continue apace for another minute, again counting each time you see the bowling ball. Oddly enough, your count should be half the first count. Finally, having possibly* realized just how stupid your idea was, have both people bring their bowling balls down on your head. Hard.
*Not "probably."
Tides are very well understood--only one moon is required to create Earth's tides.
Additionally, if the inner moon orbited closer to Earth, its orbital speed would be much faster than the outer. That is the only way its orbit would be even remotely stable.
If your inner moon existed, whether it is a natural object or not, it would be plainly visible. On some days of the month, it would be clearly visible in the sky alongside the outer.
Unless you're planning to argue that the inner moon is somehow camouflaged and using some sort of colossal engine to remain in one place, of course. Then again, you believe that earth has two moons and one of them is a gigantic spacecraft. So you might actually believe that.
Tempus: your choice of moon, "inner moon", makes it all make sense! The second moon is hidden INSIDE the first! It is also hollow, and reptilians live in it.
That's great man! How do you do that believing silly things trick? Is it sorta like the way fundies believe any old rubbish that they're told? Do you have to practice a lot? Do you have to use many drugs? I mean, I can believe weird things sometimes, but when I sober up everything's always back to normal.
Never crossed your mind, that if that were the case, we'd be able to see either of the two moons two times a day, instead of just the one.
No, didn't think so.
Of the two links this guy references, one of them is a National Geographic article which debunks the theory in a couple of lines - the main article is about how the moon could, at some point in the future, be joined by a second moon. The other links to a Google search, the first result of which is the "Spaceship Moon" theory as described on Wikipedia. This theory does not suggest that there are two moons, rather that the one and only moon is in fact a spaceship. Again, this is debunked fairly conclusively in a few sentences. Did this guy just hope that no-one would actually check his links, but just notice that he has referenced links, just like proper people do?
@Tempus: Obviously, the spaceship moon has a cloaking device. Duh. The Romulans must have found a wormhole that took them back to prehistoric times. There they built the second moon (which is a battle station much like the Death Star), cloaking it of course, so that they could defeat the Federation in a few million years' time. When you think about it, it makes total sense.
...they just clearly didn't bank on the mind-boggling deduction powers of manonthemoon.
@Gah: Interesting if true.
Unless our hidden starship-moon is the Dahak, in which case we're fucked because that means that the Achuultani are coming.
Wow, he's like the anti-O'Reilly
One doesn't understand the moons effect on the tides and the other thinks the moon is having too many effects on the tide therefore there must be a second one.
@Tempus: Okay. You're on. I can supply salsa for the chips, a chess set to hone our military skills (we'll no doubt need to take Earth back from the invaders ourselves), and all seven seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. All that averting the apocalypse should boost our morale.
Well? I guess that this guy is smarter than Bill O'Reilly:
"Tides go in, tides go out, never a misscomunication. No one can say why".
But he's crazier than Bill0 because he made up a whole, nonexistent, moon to explain the great mystery of the tides which has been well understood by learned people since Newton.
manonthemoon, here's how it works. First, you have to realize that the force of gravity decreases with the square of the distance, i.e. the farther away you are, the less it effects you. Okay, now, imagine a big ball of water floating in space. The side closest to the sun is pulled the most, the middle part is pulled less, and the farthest section is pulled the least. What sort of shape would this make? Correct - a squished sphere or "oblate spheroid".
In the same way, the water on Earth is squished into an oblate spheroid. As the Earth orbits the Sun, the oceans closest (and farthest) from the Sun changes.
There you go. Tides in two places. No need for anti-moon spaceships. Of course, now he'll become convinced that the Earth has invisible rockets because it doesn't crash into the Sun.
Wait, a fake space ship moon?
Shit. Somebody get us a mecha with some drills. We need to combine with that shit.
...what? The Star Wars reference was too obvious.
There is actually one real moon (that the astronauts landed on) and a fake spaceship moon, positioned at exactly the opposite side of the earth.
I guess the Apollo missions were lucky that they choose the “real” moon for their landings. Imagine how embarrassing it would have been to try to plant the flag or play a round of golf, just for an alien to come up from a hatch and tell them to cut the crap and to get off his lawn.
Confused?
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