"I’m not seeing a valid equivalence between the Holocaust and terminating an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy, or between slavery and terminating a pregnancy. "
That's because you are the king of euphemisms. "Terminating a pregnancy" is completely disingenuous. All pregnancies terminate: some with live babies, some with dead. The relationship between the 3 is obvious when one considers that in all three cases a human is being de-humanized, and always with language and euphemisms. Here is a chilling link on the comparison with the Holocaust (just take the spaces out):
http://www .abortionfacts .com/literature/abortion-the-hidden-holocaust
"a zygote, embryo or fetus represents a human being."
You don't know the basic biological fact that human life begins at human conception? Really?!? What is the point in discussing with you when you are so anti-science?
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"That's because you are the king of euphemisms. "Terminating a pregnancy" is completely disingenuous. All pregnancies terminate: some with live babies, some with dead. The relationship between the 3 is obvious when one considers that in all three cases a human is being de-humanized, and always with language and euphemisms."
Abortionism is worse than the Holocaust of the Jew. Not only all the aborted babies get killed, but they all end up going to Hell, where they are burned and tortured for eternity. Because they had not believed weren't Saved.
John 3:18
In the name of the Lord,
Somewhere around 50 to 85 percent of all fertilized eggs end up in miscarriage, most so early that the woman didn't even know it was there.
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Ah, I see Jerry is another in the "God is an asshole" camp.
Really though....not that I believe in a god, or believe that a fetus is an actual person, but if both of those things are true just for the sake of the argument, you're telling me God sends them to Hell for something they had absolutely no part in, no control over whatsoever? That's not a being I want to worship. That makes God worse than any mass-murderer in human history.
Leave it to Jerry to make a reply worse than the actual post, I guess.....
"You don't know the basic biological fact that human life begins at human conception?"
Just to clarify (again): It is NOT so that conception occurs and [morphing sound] a microscopic version of a newborn!
You don't know the basic biological fact that human life begins at human conception
Okay, that's technically a biological fact, but that's not an actual human until it's actually born. Most of those fertilised eggs are naturally aborted.
And really, abortion shouldn't fucking matter, because as bad as it is, the already born person is always more important than a potentially born person. Okay, use the Holocaust to make a cheap political point? Imagine if some Jewish woman at some point in the past, she was carrying the person who could have been the man to rebuild the Temple and lead the Jews back to Israel, but said person was naturally aborted at a few weeks in the first trimester. That person never existed, therefore, that person never mattered in reality. Same with every fetus/embryo aborted nowadays, because women's freedom matters more above the freedom of people who might potentially exist.
Oh look, Jerry is once again proving he's either a very despicable yet moronic being who faps to the eternal suffering of babies*, or a very dedicated yet annoying troll.
Seriously, why hasn't this guy been banned yet?
*If you actively follow and worship a monster that does something like that, you're just as bad.
Also, another insane "pro-lifer" who has the audacity to compare abortions to a friggin' atrocity like the holocaust. How about you guys actually try to save real lives? Then you can ride that high horse all day long.
Jerry you belive in the Elect right? You believe that people are chosen by God to be saved and everyone else goes to hell because they can't be saved? If so then why are you agianst abortion? Clearly all those humans are not elect for if they were they would have been saved. Are you saying that an abortion Doctor is more powerful then God? Are you saying that they can stop someone from being one of the elect? Isn't that giving humans more power then God? No aborted child would have been one of the elect anyway otherwise God would not have allowed them to be aborted.
I honestly don't see how someone who believes in a concept like the Elect can be against abortion. Then again you purposely keep me from being one of the elect so there is that.
Ok, following your lógic, refugees are not refugees but terrorists to be. When you distort language, this happens
"Life" Does NOT begin at conception! Both gametes, the egg and sperm, were alive before the mating. Only the hybridization of the two genomes occurred at conception, half father half mother, but no better in any way than the cells around it. It is simply a method to spread our genetics and we should control it for the good of the world and not imaginary gods.
@Nazi Jerry
"Abortionism is worse than the Holocaust of the Jew"
Hosea 13:16.
Thank you for admitting that your 'God' is worse than Hitler, then.
One more reason - among so many you've given us since you infected this place - for people to not be a part of your twisted religion, Jer. And you're driving them away.
Oh, and don't forget:
http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=115113&Page=3#1893372
As you've addressed a corrupted Catholic - Augustine - you are going to Hell. Prove me wrong, Jer. Now.
So, WGC and Jerry, show us the jars in which you carefully protect and nourish your nail clippings and excess hair. Ever cut off a hangnail? Those are human cells, and thus by your definition, a full human life, you clipper-wielding murderer.
What? You don't do that, but you still want to bash women for destroying other clumps of cells?
OK, so how 'bout you shove your hypocrisy up your ass sideways.
It isn't as if science all agreed upon your definition, you know. If you agree that all pregnancies should end with a loved and wanted child, you would be out there supporting PLANNED parenthood, as I do.
In the name of the Lord,
Which lord are we talking about here?
Or is it someone else?
http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=113613&Page=1#1871890
@Eternal Baby-torturer Jerry
"Abortion is more than murder. It sends babies directly to hell where they are tortured for eternity.
http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=113613&Page=1#1871892
@brazenTyrant
"@Jerry
Hosea 13:16. What had those innocent Samaritan unborn done to your so-called 'God' of unconditional 'Love' at that point in time to warrant their hideous terminations and their eternal torture, Jerry?
Unless you can immediately show us your country being the ISIS Caliphate-esque Eternal Talibangelist Theocracy of Godsville it's supposed to be right now, with Ten Commandments outside ALL courtrooms in the US, that 'Goddamn Piece of Paper' being torn up, and your personal word being law, why is the world becoming more and more secular , the ways of the right-wing Fundamental ist Christain dying as you become more & more politically impotent: otherwise why so butthurt at the world - least of all we in FSTDT - not bending to your will?
You know the only possible answer to that question. Don't you, Jer? Jonathan Edwards does. [/OSA S]
The ex -fundies here in FSTDT certainly do
"Wait, wait, wait. Humans can decide if somebody is sent to hell? Apparently Jerry believes that human actions can overrule God. Sounds a lot like blasphemy to me."
With Jerry's blood thirst, I would think that his Lord would be Khorne.
"Zygotes and Fetuses for the Blood God!!"
@@Meeeh:
I just checked, Jimmy Savile was just a knight, not a lord, which is kind of a pity, because he'd have been perfect as Jerry's lord.
(For additional lulz, Savile had a double knighthood: a British one that Maggy Thatcher finally got him, on her fourth try, and a Papal knighthood. The irony was strong with this fucker...)
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