I'll do my own humorous summary
"Debating with an atheist"
Atheist: I deny the existence of air
Facilis: what?? You're breathing now. Air is the necessary precondition for breathing.
A: No. I see no reason why air is necessary for breathing. I am breathing now and i don't believe in air.
F: It the impossibility of the contrary. What else could you be breathing.
A: That is just an air of the gaps fallacy.You just insert air into the gaps since you do not know how people breathe.
F:But how else can you account for breathing?
A:I'm just breathing because that is the way it is. I'm still going to deny the existence of air.
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Air (or rather oxygen) is easy to prove.
Put a lit candle into a small enclosed compartment and will go out after a while, proving that there was some gaseous stuff in the compartment that the fire needed to burn (and which was used up by the fire).
Put a small animal (a rat for example) into a small compartment and after a while it will suffocate (or rather, drop unconscious) showing that there probably was some invisible stuff in the compartment which was needed by the rat for survival (well, to be more exact it is 2 stuffes, O2 which is needed and the produced CO2 which is harmful).
Put a plant (thatv is big enough) together with the rat into an enclosed compartment and you can even show, that plants obviously produce the stuff that is needed by animals for their survival.
As for the air that surrounds us...
it might be invisible, but we see the effect it has in the form of wind.
So, there is not a single jota of faith needed to accept the existence of air/oxygen.
Now devise similar experiments to prove the existence of god ;)
I'll do my own humorous summary
"Debating with an atheist"
Atheist: I deny the existence of air
Big fail right from the start.
There is evidence that air exists. Show me the evidence for your sky daddy that holds any water and we can talk.
MfG
Worst strawman ever.
F: It the impossibility of the contrary. What else could you be breathing.
A: That is just an air of the gaps fallacy.You just insert air into the gaps since you do not know how people breathe.
F:But how else can you account for breathing?
Um. Are you suggesting that we don't actually know why we need air to breathe and that air is only necessary because we can't think of any other theories?
Just because you failed primary school biology and chemistry doesn't mean everybody else did too.
I'll do my own humorous summary
Debating with a Christian
C: You see all this stuff around us, that's aether.
A: What! No it isn't.
C: Yes it is.
A: Aether was disproven by science 400years ago!
C: Pfft science, if it isn't real then how does moonlight get here?
A: It's made of photons like all light, it's capable of moving thought a vacuum.
C: HA! That's 'scientific' nonsense, no one has ever seen a photon, you can't prove it exists there for Christianity is right!
I'll do my own humorous summary
Debating with a Christian
C: You see all this stuff around us, that's aether.
A: What! No it isn't.
C: Yes it is.
A: Aether was disproven by science 400years ago!
C: Pfft science, if it isn't real then how does moonlight get here?
A: It's made of photons like all light, it's capable of moving thought a vacuum.
C: HA! That's 'scientific' nonsense, no one has ever seen a photon, you can't prove it exists there for Christianity is right!
Theist: "Yes, but in space there is no air, and it's hard to breathe."
Atheist: "Yes but space is very expensive. Let's test your 'air' hypothesis experimentally in a vacuum chamber.
*later*
Theist: "All right, I'm pumping in the vacuum now!"
Atheist: *passes out*
*more later*
Atheist: "Holy shit you were right!"
Theist: "See! I'm right sometimes, now you must believe everything I say."
Atheist: "But you haven't shown proof of a god. I can't just believe everything you say based on silly analogies."
Theist: "Well, you can't put yourself in a God vacuum chamber, because God is everywhere."
Atheist: "Isn't that convenient?"
Find someone who's never seen an elephant, or even a picture or video of one, but just has a vague description of what it's supposed to look like. Get this person to draw an elephant. The result would be to elephants what fundie "humour" is to actual humour, in that you can tell what it's theoretically supposed to be but it's not right.
"I'll do my own humorous summary"
Well, that's your first fail right there. And the rest is just a whole load of bullshit.
More like this:
ATHEIST: "Prove the existence of air."
FACILIS: "What else could you be breathing?"
ATHEIST: "LOL fail! All you had to do was show physical evidence for air, like the measurable drag it causes when you swoosh your hand through it, but you couldn't even do THAT!"
Name one Atheist that denies anything (in mass) but God, for that matter.
We just live in the real world and you refuse it
nice straw man. looks fresh. did you just cut the hay?
you forget the part where the atheist spends years of their life deciding on whether or not they believe in air, and coming to well-reasoned, logical decisions based on fact and observations.
for example: i know air exists because 1: air is merely a mixture of various gasses. i know gasses exist, because i have done reflux reactions, which require chemicals be in a gaseous form, so it is logical to assume that air exists. 2: breathing implies that some kind of gaseous matter enters your lungs. air fits that description perfectly. because i know i am breathing, i can assume the air i think i am breathing in exists. 3: WAVE YOUR HAND AROUND IN THE AIR. FEEL THAT SLIGHT RESISTANCE? AIR.
this is how creationists come to conclusions about air: GOD SAYS AIR EXISTS. no more questions needed. this is an extremely bad analogy in either direction, and only goes to show how stupid its creator is.
I'll do my own humorous summary
"Debating with an evolution denier"
ED: I deny the existence of evolution!
Rational Person: What?? Look at all of the variety of life around you. Evolution explains the diversity of life.
ED: No. I see no reason why small changes add up over time to larger changes. Where is the dog that gave birth to a cat? I've never seen a dog-cat, and i don't believe in evolution.
RP: What you believe has nothing to do with what is actually true. Why do you think they need to create new antibiotics? Bacteria evolve; change over time, to be resistant to previous antibiotics.
ED: That is just micro evolution. Everyone knows that occurs. And they're still bacteria.
RP: So you believe you can walk across your kitchen, but you can't walk across the country? Evolution is evolution; the only difference is time. How else can you account for ring species? What about bacteria evolving to digest citrate?
ED: They're still birds, and the bacteria is still bacteria. I'm going to change my definition of "kind" as often as required to cover any case you can come up with. They're still the same "kind". Even a two-year-old knows what a "kind" is. We don't know how it happens, and that means my specific goddidit. I'm denying all of the mountains of scientific evidence for evolution because it's all a conspiracy to deny god so people can sin. If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?
RP: Evolution doesn't say "we came from monkeys"; humans and the great apes have a common ancestor. If you came from Europeans, how come there are still Europeans?
ED: I don't care what the evidence says! All of that science and evidence crap is wrong if it disagrees with anything in my specific holy book. These modern scientists think they're so smart with all of their "evidence". Nothing will change my mind!
RP: And you say WE'RE closed-minded.
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