Sorry, bad design. You aren't thinking about what's best for kids, you are only thinking about your own selfish political agenda.
Its not discrimination, its using good judgement.
When Johnny turns 10, he will talk to his friends who have a mommy and a daddy. Then he will ask his two daddies, "Daddies? Why don't I have a mommy?" The daddies will reply, "We don't value a mommy in our family, and we didn't value your need for a mommy either."
Sorry, that's what you get in a gay family.
It only serves yourself. Kids deserve a better design.
Don't you have any compassion for the needs of children? Again, a child NEEDS a mother and a father. THAT'S a good design.
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When Johnny turns 12, he may start to have some homosexual thoughts. Then he will ask his fundie parents, "Parents? I think I may like boys." The parents will reply, "We don't value gay people in our family, and we don't value your existence. Now we'll have to beat the gayness out of you with a belt."
Sorry, that's what you get in a fundie family.
It's not only a put-down to gays and lesbians when they say "a child NEEDS a mother and a father" but also to single parents. And as a gay guy who was raised by a single parent, I say a firm and proud Fuck You to all these fundies who claim this.
Seriously, who would say that they "don't value a mommy"? I know I certainly do.
Sorry, bad design. You aren't thinking about what's best for kids, you are only thinking about your own selfish political agenda.
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Its not discrimination, its using good judgement.
Discrimination is using good judgement?
When Johnny turns 10, he will talk to his friends who have a mommy and a daddy. Then he will ask his two daddies, "Daddies? Why don't I have a mommy?"
It'll happen, yes. Every family is different in some way, so there will be some question the kid will have to ask. His fathers will explain what it means to be gay, and that it's perfectly normal and nothing to be ashamed of.
The daddies will reply, "We don't value a mommy in our family, and we didn't value your need for a mommy either."
Oh, you didn't tell me his fathers were both straw gay men. Tell me, have you ever met any gay people who said this? Have you ever met any gay people at all? Furthermore, what "need for a mommy" are you talking about? The one that prohibits single parents from raising children? Children don't need a female parent around; just loving parents.
Sorry, that's what you get in a gay family.
No, that's what you get in your straw gay family. If you would like a real gay family, please visit my cousin. You are advised to keep your homophobic bullshit to yourself, or you will be escorted off the property fast enough to observe the Theory of Relativity firsthand. If you are unable to control your bigotry, then at least keep your rest mass down.
It only serves yourself. Kids deserve a better design.
Tell that to my adopted cousin from Cambodia. Tell her that she should be sent back to poverty because she deserves "better" than a loving but gay family. Again, keep your body's rest mass down; mass dilates at high speeds.
Don't you have any compassion for the needs of children?
Don't you have the intellectual honesty to use solely reasoned arguments, and not rely on appeals to blind emotion? (No.)
Again, a child NEEDS a mother and a father. THAT'S a good design.
When the father (or mother) dies, the children are taken away from the surviving parent? Or is the parent forced to remarry after a month or two? How about you just shut up, and stop telling everyone else what they should do with their lives?
<<< Again, a child NEEDS a mother and a father. THAT'S a good design. >>>
Tell that to the kids I know raised by single parents. Most of them turned out just fine (no more nutcases among them than you would expect among the general population, and certainly far fewer than what I would expect from families like yours).
Well statistically children of single parents have a tougher time (due to a number of factors, especially money and attention), but studies have also shown that the gender of the parents makes no difference.
So when Jonny asks his daddy why he doesn't have a mummy, daddy will reply, mummy died giving birth to you, god doesn't value a mummy in this family.
I love her response later on, when she is shown studies that disprove her bullshit.
"Sorry, a study won't erase 1000s of years of traditional family values. Those studies are politcally motivated to push an agenda on the rest of us."
Try about 100 years of family values. If that.
Actually, what little Johnny needs is a loving environment, parental support and solid role models. As to why a gay couple would not be able to supply these, I have no idea.
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Don't you have any compassion for the needs of children? Again, a child NEEDS a mother and a father. THAT'S a good design.
No, THIS is a good design
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Why do you assume that the gay family in question ( that should be questionable gay family, actually) doesn't have anyone of the opposite sex that can mentor little Johnny? Is parenting only valid if the opposite sex parent lives in the home?
What about this scenario?
Johnny: Hey Dad!
Dad: What?
Johnny: You know Tommy? He has one mommy and a different dad every few weeks, why?
OR:
Johnny: Hey Dad, what's" Tomcattin' around"
Dad: Where did you hear that?
J: From Susie, she said her mother told her that's what her Daddy does every weekend.
OR
J: Dad, Joey's Mom is in the hospital again.
D: what happened?
J: Joey's Daddy got drunk and beat her up. But it's OK Joey said she deserved it. Dad, what's a fuckin' cunt? That's what Joey said his mother is, his Dad told him so.
Gotta love those family values.
and then johny ask both his dads, dad why dont you beat each other? my friend has a mom and her husband beats her all the time.
I know you both act as my parents, you treat me with motherly love even though your my dad and you keep me on hte good path.
But still i think you should beat the crap out of each other like other families do..
also why dont i have a sister?
come on your argument is based on nothing.
I grew up having two lesbians take care of me, so, understandably, I am absolutely disgusted by people like this.
Sweeping Generalizations for Jesus.
I am bisexual, and a single father. I've had boyfriends, and my kids know about them. If, someday, I should happen to find a man I want to spend the rest of my life with, my kids aren't going to be taken away from me. They still visit their mommy (who has had some personal problems), and they always will.
So shut up, twatface.
Hmm, I spent half of my childhood being raised by a single mother, and half being raised by my mother and whoever her abusive man happened to be at the time.
I'm DAMN sure which was more healthy for me, and it's not the one Jo-Mama probably thinks.
Am I the only one getting Helen Lovejoy's "Won't Somebody PLEASE think of the children" wail in my head?
What would a kid get if mommy or daddy was hiding their homosexual nature just for the sake of following God's demands? A very, very unstable family. Relationships don't work when one side is pretending to be something they aren't.
On the other hand, every single person I've known that's had two mothers or two fathers, they've been some of the nicest, most open-hearted people around.
A child needs good parents, whether they be straight or homosexual. YOU aren't thinking about what's best for kids, you are only thinking about your own selfish political agenda. You would rather children be stuck in the welfare system and shuttled from foster home to foster home, rather than remain in a loving home with two gay parents? Get over yourself.
My mother walked out when I was five, and Dad raised the three of us single-handedly.
The trauma of losing our Mum was enough, and now you're saying that Dad should have adopted us out to a family that had parents of both sexes, rather than keeping us together and raising us the best way that he knew how??
Fuck off.
You know, I read that a Canadian study showed that same-sex couples are just as good at parenting as opposite-sex couples, and may even be somewhat better at it. I'm not exactly sure why they'd be better at it. Perhaps they're overcompensating, either consciously or unconsciously, to prove fuckers like you wrong. Perhaps more of them are trying to raise a good human being rather than fulfill an expected role in life or a psychological need to pass on their genes. Perhaps the discrimination many of them suffer has taught them greater compassion and tolerance, and how NOT to parent, than the average straight person. Whatever the reason, it is what it is, and your argument is invalid. Therefore fuck off.
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