[As a teenager I was raped. I became pregnant and undoubtedly terminated said pregnancy. Why should I have to live with something that I had no say in creating for the rest of my life? Why should I be tasked with raising a child I didn't not want nor could provide for? Why is my right to chose anybody's business? A fetus is a fetus and nothing more. It is not a human being until it leaves the body. It does not have rights. It is given rights the moment it is able to breathe oxygen not before.]
I am very sorry for what happened to you. I am also sorry that after experiencing such a horrible atrocity, you chose to turn around and commit an even worse act of violence against your child. Why did you inflict corporal punishment on your baby for a crime they didn’t even commit? You do realize you could have put them up for adoption, right? Why did they deserve to have the life crushed out of them? Why was their right to live subject to change based on YOUR bigoted, subjective opinion of their worth?
A human fetus is a HUMAN BEING. To say otherwise is to deny the laws of bio-genesis, which state that humans cannot reproduce anything but other humans. What, you think pregnant women carry potatoes in their uteri for 10 months, until the act of labor magically transforms the baby into a human? No. Your baby was a living, human being. They had as much a right to not be killed as you, regardless of the fact that they were attached to you by an umbilical cord. I’m sorry you felt that it was your right to violate and oppress them.
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The problem here is that the baby hasn't had a chance to accept Jesus, and the abortion denies the child this choice and sends him directly to Hell. Hell is full of aborted babies.
John 14:6
In the name of the Lord,
Jerry
The problem here:
http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=115784&Page=2#1901108
Is that Jerry has already 'Jumped the Shark', and proved he's a Poe, therefore invalidating anything he's said before, now, and in the future. He's full of shit. [/Mister Spak, @#1901142, @#1901148]
Also, Romans 11:26-32, which annihilates John 14:6, and therefore the whole concept of the 'Elect' and Jer's pretend 'Doctrines', no matter how fluid & changeable they are from day-to-day, minute-by-minute like a religious T-1000.
@Jerry
If you have any unambiguous proof that Jesus ever existed, please provide it.
If you have any unambiguous proof that Hell exists, please provide it.
" I became pregnant and undoubtedly terminated said pregnancy."
Undoubtedly, huh? I get it, it's fiction, as is the following explanation.
WOW, are you for real?! You just made this rape victim's life even harder by making her feel guilty for making a choice for herself - after the choice of having sex was stolen from her that time, no less!
And you know what? I don't believe you're sorry this woman was raped, either! If you really were, you wouldn't have put out such garbage! You could have said, "I'm so sorry that happened to you and I hope you're doing okay, and what you just said really made me question myself there," and left it at that. But noooo, let's just jump at the opportunity to advertise your pro-life talking points, all at the expense of this poor woman's dignity and totally ignoring her dire need for compassion.
Rape culture, ladies and gentlemen! Isn't it awful?!
"I'm very sorry for what happened to you. That's why I'm going to call you a cold hearted, bigoted monster for not wanting to go through nine months of pregnancy, constant reminders of your traumatic experience, and the extremely painful and potentially lethal process of childbirth, all for a fetus you did not agree to and had no choice in creating."
And seriously, enough with the "you could put it up for adoption" argument. You act like women just painlessly and effortlessly shit out the baby after a few hours, rather than carrying it around for 3/4 of a year and having to push the entire body out of their vagina.
@ Giles
And seriously, enough with the "you could put it up for adoption" argument. You act like women just painlessly and effortlessly shit out the baby after a few hours, rather than carrying it around for 3/4 of a year and having to push the entire body out of their vagina.
I know, right?! And isn't it hard for people to adopt a kid these days? What are the chances that kid's even going to get adopted soon anyway?
This won't get fans,but..I'm nominally pro choice, but I think abortion is a bad choice for many women. 1st trimester abortions, are the best way to go,if that is your decision. And it's not mine to make for you. I do believe at that developmental stage,it's not a person. That's what the superchristains can't get over. It's not a person in any true sense.
Abortion is worse than rape?
Eat a bowl of rancid dicks. And I don't care if Jerry is a troll anymore, he can join the OP. His shtick is gettting old.
"your child" - making a big assumption there bub. It wasn't her child, it was her rapist's. To quote one of my favorite comics, family isn't about blood, it's about bonds, and this person clearly has no bond with the rapist's baby.
As for adoption, I've known people who've been put up for adoption and told me they'd rather abort a pregnancy then subject a kid to what they went through in the system. Sadly not enough kids get adopted as it is.
Of course its a human, there's no good reason to pretend otherwise. However, as pointed out pro-lifers make the same basic error as extreme pro-choicers - they champion one persons rights and ignore the other. Once you accept both have rights it becomes obvious that any realistic balancing of the two, given the extreme burden on the mother and the need for equality, leads to abortion as of right up to a reasonable term so as to allow real choice to be exercised (and thereafter obviously for medical reasons).
It's all so easy to cast judgment and act all pious with faux-grief when you're not in their shoes.
"What, you think pregnant women carry potatoes in their uteri for 10 months, until the act of labor magically transforms the baby into a human?"
I will never be able to eat bangers & mash in the same way ever again.
"I am very sorry for what happened to you. I am also sorry that after experiencing such a horrible atrocity, you chose to turn around and commit an even worse act of violence against your child."
I am very sorry that you chose to commit an even worse atrocity against a rape victim with your fundie assault.
@Jerry:
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This is your idea of a baby?
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The most dangerous thing a woman can do is to become pregnant; one woman dies every two minutes from complications due to pregnancy and childbirth. It's not something you should be able to force anyone to go through.
10 months? Did you skip Biology in school, or what?
You can't harvest organs from a recently deceased body without pre-death consent, not even to save 10-15 lives. Why should a woman have less autonomy than a dead body?
Life begins when the fetus is able to survive outside the womb. No country that I know of allows abortions that late in the pregnancy, other than for medical reasons.
You do realize you could have put them up for adoption, right?
So, assuming your word is not worthless, how many children have you adopted?
What, you think pregnant women carry potatoes in their uteri for 10 months, until the act of labor magically transforms the baby into a human? No. Your baby was a living, human being. They had as much a right to not be killed as you
So, if something grows in the womb, it is a human being with as much right to life as the owner of the womb? You also object, I take it, to the treatment of ovarian cancer?
@ Jerry
Jerry, the same is true of millions of children who die as babies or infants. If you're anxious for children to saved from hell, why not get active in child public health?
Again with the guilt trip. The pro-birth crowd gets a lot of mileage out of guilting women into thinking that they murdered their baby.
In this case I think an abortion was the proper course of action. It's bad enough a teenager was raped, but you know there would have been many judgmental assholes looking on with disdain at her for being pregnant at such a young age.
Women are sentient beings, a fetus is not. Asking a woman to turn her body over to another being against her will is slavery. Asking a rape victim to deal with nine months of slavery and a lifetime of changes in her body, to literally carry reminders of the rape in her body for the rest of her life is beyond monstrous.
@Demon Duck of Doom
"This is one of the more heinous quotes I've submitted. "
This is standard antichoice parrot phrasing from 40 years ago, so they've been this heinous for a long time.
Hasan Prishtina:
"Jerry, the same is true of millions of children who die as babies or infants."
Indeed!
" If you're anxious for children to saved from hell, why not get active in child public health? "
Being a Christian and proselytizing for the Lord is also a matter of public health. Real Christians are happy and health, and live a good, sober, and wholesome lifestyle. No Obamacare or any other "healthcare" scam needed.
In the name of the Lord,
Jerry
Well Jerry, kids don't have te option to choose Jesús because of their brains, you know. Following your lógic, am I a sinner everytime I have my period?
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