You cannot be both a feminist and carnist, when feminism stands for equal rights for all. Stop treating vegans like shit because of your lack of education on the movement, especially when they are supporting everything [else] you stand for.
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Gods, this reminds me of a third waver from a fan fiction group I was in. She would weep and wail and gnash her teeth about stories featuring MPreg of all the stupid things. Tried to say it was the patriarchy usurping the one thing women can do that men can't. That women who wrote those kinds of stories were internally misogynistic. It turned out she was a huge TERF and her bitching and twitching was because those kinds of stories reminded her that some (trans)men can give birth.
The real feminists in the group had a field day with her after that.
Heads up, buttercup. Feminist does not equal only the women who think exactly like you.
Vegans can do what they like, as long as they don't try to get all preachy and better-than-thou, like fundies. When they cross that line, they'll be just as mocked and ridiculed.
> She would weep and wail and gnash her teeth about stories featuring MPreg of all the stupid things. Tried to say it was the patriarchy usurping the one thing women can do that men can't.
Did somebody wail and gnash teeth about strap-ons? That is, women usurping the one thing men can do but women can't?
You need to learn the definition of feminism before you can make any claims about what it entails. Also, the issues surrounding livestock are complex, so, for example, where do you stand on the issue surrounding the slaughter of male chicks because they can't produce eggs and enough meat? Whilst women's rights is an important issue, perspective is needed, and it can't be appropriated for all the world's problems.
This drive-by buggering of reason brought to you by the letter V.
V as in Vegan, Vegetable, Vexing Vociferous Vagrant...
"Carnist?"
@Yossarian: A rooster can't yield enough meat? Ha! Coming from the personal experience of raising chickens, I don't trust a word of what factory farmers claim. We had a rooster once, and we ate him. He fed a family of four and was delicious.
Stop treating vegans like shit because of your lack of education on the movement
We don't. We treat vegans like shit because they are, to a man, sanctimonious, supercilious bores who tell lies about human biology.
@ Demon Duck of Doom:
"Carnist" is one of their insult names for people who eat meat. "Bloodmouth" is another. And if there isn't a band named "Bloodmouthed carnists", there should be.
“You cannot be both a feminist and carnist, when feminism stands for equal rights for all.”
Feminism stands for NOT discriminating based on sex. You can even be a racist and a feminist. It’s gauche, but it doesn’t violate any definitions.
"Stop treating vegans like shit because of your lack of education on the movement,”
No, if i treat them like shit, it’s for how they treat me. Like claiming i can’t eat cows if i think women should get equal pay.
That’s a shit argument.
"especially when they are supporting everything [else] you stand for.”
No, sorry, stupid is as stupid does. Even if you’re right 90% of the time, that 10% is still stupid.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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