Why liberals are dumbasses
Im trying to quote the best I can from Michael Savage.
Liberalism consist of comunism, fascism and a pinch of nazism
Most liberals confuse the word "liberal" with liberation, freedom, being left alone, not being told that to do. But when you look at it...who are the ones telling people what to do? The liberals. They complain about everything, Tell people they cant smoke, express there religion, say that they want, do what they want, etc etc.
Think to yourself, whos the reall liberal?
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Fascism is extremely right-wing, as were the Nazis. Communism is extreme left-wing, and to be a liberal you don't have to be a commy.
"Liberal" comes from the Latin word "liber", meaning free. Liberals are pro-freedom. The Conservatives are the ones who don't want people smoking, expressing their religion, and exercising their rights to free speech. So in your post describing Liberals, you perfectly described extreme conservatives instead (except the communism part).
who are the ones telling people what to do?
Fundies, mostly.
"This post is crap, but I agree with his point about the anti-smoking crusade of the Left. It's annoying as hell."
It may be annoying, but those campaigns are aimed more at stopping children from smoking before it's too late, and making sure adults know the dangers of smoking (which I am sure everyone knows by now).
I personally think that the whole campaign against second hand smoke is ridiculous. If you don't wanna breathe it in when someone around you is smoking, you should take your ass outside, haha.
Again, what the hell do these people have against communism? Is it because they have trouble separating an economic and political philosophy with the authoritarian governments of China and Russia, or is it because they are blindly devoted to the American way of "get mega rich by exploiting poorer people"? I realise that's an unfair generalisation to America, since corporations from other countries are no less guilty, but America seems to be decidedly more comitted to the idea.
This fool is a joke. To quote Mike Savage and then call someone else a Nazi or facist, that is just sad and stupid! You conservatives passed the Patriot Act, which bears a dreadful resemblence to the a Nazi atricles that overthrew the Weimar Cinstitution and brought Hitler to power. Funny thing I know more fundies that are anti-smokers than liberals. Perhaps this idiot should try and light up on the Bob Jones, Liberty Baptist, or Wheaton campuses and see how it takes for a not-so-nice man with a gun to order him off the property. Perhaps he might need to look at his conservative fundie buddies' posts over here to find out who's really trying to run people's private lives!
Actually, Liberalism is a right-of-centre ideology, together with Conservatism. (Perhaps except for the US, where the entire political climate is right-wing.) The most extreme right-wing party in Norway is a liberal party... Generally, the Left consists of social democrats and socialists.
Andreas
Actually, Liberalism is a right-of-centre ideology, together with Conservatism. (Perhaps except for the US, where the entire political climate is right-wing.) The most extreme right-wing party in Norway is a liberal party... Generally, the Left consists of social democrats and socialists.
Not really. Economic libertarianism ('neo-liberalism') is right-wing; social libertarianism (traditional liberalism) is left-wing. Roughly speaking.
I would point in the direction of www.politicalcompass.org , but while the two-dimensional measurement on that site is more accurate than the traditional left-right scale (allowing, for example, to make the distinction that even though Stalin was economically left-wing, he was socially right-wing and Hitler was also socially right-wing but an economic centrist) the whole deal's obviously a lot more complicated than even two dimensions can reliably depict.
Nobody wants to be told what to do. Specially when you have to rely in a book written 5000 years ago which contradicts all the time, The OT in relation with the NT, and in people who put in the same pot three contradictory ideologies.
@anti-nonsense
"Um...facism is right-wing. Communism is left-wing. Both are wrong but communism is at leat a good idea in theory even if it doesn't work in reality."
They're not that opposite, though. Fascism is the belief that the benefit of the state outweighs the benefit of the individual. Communism is the belief that society should be structured "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" (not sure if that's an exact quote). The two aren't even incompatible, let alone opposite, which, again, explains why Stalin was pretty much both Communist and Fascist.
In more general terms, things that slide towards Communism rely on a government-controlled market (as opposed to a free market, which is what both the right- and left-wing parties in America advocate, even though, in economic terminology, it's all right-wing) whereas Fascism (or, in its more general guise, authoritarianism) relies on state-controlled 'everything else'. So the two are really more compatible than they appear.
To bring that back on-topic, what are the opposites of authoritarianism (Fascism) and socialism (Communism)? Why, Liberalism in both cases! The opposite of Communism is a Free (i.e. liberal) Market, and the opposite of Fascism is individual social freedoms.
Furthermore, I can't decide whether the poster either means the same thing by 'fascism and... nazism' or means something totally irrelevant by nazism.
Smoking: I'm a smoker and I support smoking bans. I may have the right to pollute my own lungs, but I don't have the right to expose other people to carcinogenic vapor. Their right to have clean air trumps my right to smoke.
Religion: No one is against expressing your religion, just don't use public time or expenses to do so.
Freedom of Speech: I have seen some who are guilty of this, but both sides are guilty of trying limit free speech in order to pander to voters.
I have to admit, I don't fully agree with liberals, but that's again just the fundie ones. And there's less fundies on the liberal than the conservative side, eh, GOBM?
@Goosey, Andreas; indeed
So, liberalism consist of socialism, national-SOCIALISM and racist national-SOCIALISM? (as someone wise said; "nazis are just racist commies. the racism is just a bonus-reason for hating them")
GOP won't let me be homosexual, Dems won't let me smoke... interesting choice; "which fag would I rather suck on?"
Liberalism consist of comunism, fascism and a pinch of nazism
So, pinch of extreme left, far right and extreme right.
...Wouldn't that make them....Right-wing?
Liberalism consist of comunism, fascism and a pinch of nazism
Nazism was a form of fascism, genius, and fascism and communism are at opposite ends of teh political spectrum. The people who tell you they're both on the left are lying to you.
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