I don't know why you all keep repeating the eukaryotic bit; I wasn't ignoring you. But you seem to be missing the main point I'm making.
There is more to a person than his human body, and biologists have apparently decided not to study or even acknowledge aspects of human beings which make them entirely distinct from animals. In fact, along with Feuerbach and Lenin they have ideologically chosen to assert that humans evolved naturally from animals; that's why we are animals.
We need not propagate the erroneous assumptions of biologists, or their short-sightedness. Science is more than just physical science. Anthropology and psychology are sciences, and they are by no means required to adhere to liberal, anti-religious positions such as methodological naturalism.
Linneaus is free to put humans where he wants. Meanwhile, God has put us where He wants. Pick a side, my friend.
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"Anthropology and psychology are sciences,"
True
" and they are by no means required to adhere to liberal, anti-religious positions such as methodological naturalism."
You just made your first statement false, bitch.
But you seem to be missing the main point I'm making. There is more to a person than his human body, and biologists have apparently decided not to study or even acknowledge aspects of human beings which make them entirely distinct from animals.
You're just insisting something is true because you said so. I don't see how that is "making a point". And biologists have studied the differences between humans and other animals quite a bit, so the second part of your statement is false.
So many words, and not even a smidge of actual, meaningful argumentation. Even random creationist sentences like "we've never seen an ape becoming a human being", "evolution leads to eugenics leads to nazism" or "bananas are evidently designed for human consumption" are more constructive than that.
That's quite a feat, really.
biologists have apparently decided not to study or even acknowledge aspects of human beings which make them entirely distinct from animals. The thing that sets humans apart from the other animals is the ability to see a future, and to recognize the fact that things they do today can change their future
So why hasn't science found where the soul resides in the body then?
And I half expected Ed here to quote the "study" which showed that the human body loses 1/8th of an ounce right at the point of death.
"God has put us where He wants. Pick a side, my friend."
If god put us where he wants then what difference does picking a side mean?
If I had to choose, I would choose naturalism hands down without a second thought against your god myths.
"Deus creavit, Linnaeus disposuit"
Translated:
-Carolus Linnaeus
so, apparently linnaeus and god were on the same side
Because for all intents and purposes those aspects DON'T SEEM TO EXIST as anything other than mental constructs, ergo not biology. They can't study what's evidently not there.
Anthropology and psychology actually DO subscribe to methodological naturalism; they don't assume that God does anything, but instead look for earthly causes first. Pretty much ALL science subscribes to some variant of methodological naturalism.
Also, Linnaeus was a Christian creationist who just happened to be honest enough to look at some evidence and not just make shit up.
You're talking a lot, but you're not saying anything!
Fun fact: Linneaus designated chimpanzees as "Homo troglodytes". His position on this point is bolstered by measurements of genetic variability: categorising chimpanzees as humans makes more sense than categorising zebras and horses both as equines - and we're happy to do that .
Yes we have.
By the way, anthropology and psychology are two very liberal sciences. I mean, anthropology seeks to understand humanity as a whole and psychology seeks to understand how, exactly, the mind works. Both require researchers to talk to people and try to see things from their point of view.
"Anthropology and psychology are sciences, and they are by no means required to adhere to liberal, anti-religious positions such as methodological naturalism."
Hate to break it to you, but both anthropology and psychology tend to provide scientific proof that stacks against your point of view.
Study the many creation myths that predate christianity, for instance, and you'll know what I'm talking about. Better yet, gain an understanding of phenomena like mass hysteria and you'll see why your faith is garbage.
How about you list those things? 'Cause scientists have been studying those things that we thought made us different (language, self-awareness, tool use, etc.) and guess what? Even octopi use tools. Many species have language, and some of them are capable of learning and using ours. Elephants, and others, recognize themselves in the mirror. Some animals even seem to mourn their dead. We ARE animals.
There is more to a person than his human body, and biologists have apparently decided not to study or even acknowledge aspects of human beings which make them entirely distinct from animals.
While this may be true (it's not), biologists wouldn't study it, because it doesn't affect their field. Biology generally studies the body, psychology/psychiatry the mind, genetics the genes, etc. While they all interrelate, they are different fields.
Science is more than just physical science. Anthropology and psychology are sciences,
This is about the only intelligent thing you've said.
and they are by no means required to adhere to liberal, anti-religious positions such as methodological naturalism.
Of course they are. If they were religious in nature, they couldn't be considered scientific. Religion involves adherance to dogma, while scientific inquiry changes as more evidence comes to light. Science, by it's very nature, is constantly changing. Religion doesn't.
They have decided to ignore?. Ok, go explain why we eat, drink, reproduce, defecate and die like all animals.
A few of the characteristics that distinguish H.Sap. from other animals:
Intentional cruelty towards those not of the same tribe
Killing that is not for the purpose of food, defense, or to secure a mate
The ability to sterilize large portions (virtually 100%) of the only planet available
"If you pick up a stray dog, feed him and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the primary difference between dog and man.” Mark Twain
Linneaus has been dead for over 200 years. He "is" not doing anything.
He wrote, in regards to Humans and Apes having the same origin: "But I seek from you and from the whole world a generic difference between man and simian that [follows] from the principles of Natural History."
"Linneaus is free to put humans where he wants. Meanwhile, God has put us where He wants. Pick a side, my friend."
I wonder which one is wishful, egocentric thinking? The side that says we are just humble animals? Or the side that says we are God's chosen people and this being of infinite power, wisdom and love favours us?
"God has put us where He wants."
"I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.
"For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity."
(Ecclesiastes 3:18-19)
Yep, it's pretty obvious where God has put us, according to your Bible.
Cats are uniquely different from other animals, and no other animal has the exact same properties of a cat. This obviously means that cats are entirely separate from the other animals and Uniquely Chosen by God! The next cat you see, Give it a Bath. It may protest, but this is actually a Test from God, and you will be Rewarded Greatly with the Blessing of Each Scratch. Not only are these Rewards in Heaven, they are the Earthly Rewards of Random Capitalization.
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