After an OP in which she claimed that the big bang formed the earth, and being told she was mistaken:
"False. The Big Bang claims that energy can be converted into mass and that's how the earth was formed. And since explosions can't come from nothing, then the Big Bang can't explain the formation of the universe. Sorry."
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Bad loser. I mean, Carico, are you unable to understand science, the Big Bang and so on?, if creationism is bad, your giving it a worse name.
@Amos
I thought it was Fred Hoyle* who coined the name I stand corrected. Lemaître developed that theory, but Hoyle gave it its present name. So yeah, I wish I could kick Hoyle's ass for that.
Fundies constantly attack the Big Bang by saying the universe couldn't spontaneously form from nothing. They attack evolution by saying life is too complex to have evolved. According to them, there had to be a creator. How ironic that when you ask where God came from, they always reply "Oh, he's just always been there." He didn't need a creator!
Fred Hoyle did coin the term Big Bang, but as a pejortative as he was a supporter of the Steady State Theory. And yes he did make the stupid quote about 747's, junkyards and tornados. Fundies occationally trot out Hoyle as an "expert" that rejected both the Big Bang and Evolution and imply he was a Bible believing Creationist. What the lying bastards don't ever mention is 1. Hoyle believed in the Steady State which totally rejects any sort of creation event. (aka the first couple chapters of Genesis) and 2. That rather than evolution Hoyle believed in panspermia, that live originated in outer space.
DarthFurious : "this poor woman is in more desperate need of an orgasm than jerry falwell."
Are you volunteering? Because I'm afraid I'll have to conscientiously object.
And I thought that the whole energy = mass thing was an outgrowth of the laws of conservation of mass and energy and all that stuff. Y'know, physics.
Carico, still not getting it. There are some constants in life, and apparently Carico's inability to comprehend... well, anything, is one of them.
Chan: ah, you misunderstood dude. That was a medical diagnosis. As far as actually filling the prescription, well, its the patient's responsibility to go to the pharmacy...
Ah, nothing like getting two rather different concepts mixed up to display your absolute utter pig ignorance.
No, wait, that's a slur on pigs. Whatever. Any pig that cares can be my breakfast tomorrow.
According to the Hindu religion the universe has expanded and collapsed 47 times to date. Perhaps there's something in that. May explain the presence of the heavy metals.
Mass is a form of energy according to Einstein, and his theories are constantly tested and verified, just as Isaac Newton's theories are.
And since explosions can't come from nothing, then the Big Bang can't explain the formation of the universe.
And since god can't come from nothing, then the creation story can't explain the formation of the universe.
Only it never claims that the big bang means the matter spontaneously spawned out of nothing, only that it was compressed and rapidly decompressed.
Congratulations on proving your ignorance and stupidity for the 100th time.
"And since explosions can't come from nothing, then the Big Bang can't explain the formation of the universe. Sorry."
The Multiverses (as in collisions between such); 11-Dimensional Mathematics. Singularities. Quantum Physics.
And the discovery just last wreek of the Higgs-Boson. Sorry to piss on your Creationist chips, Carico ([spoiler]no I'm not! XP [/spoiler]), but here on Planet Reality, these here things called 'Theories' do tend to have a rather nasty habit of becoming Facts . >:D
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