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(vcardthrow1)
...I kinda dislike parents. Including mine.

I am a hardcore anti-natalist and think having children is the most selfish thing one can do. And granted, people follow lots of selfish impulses - wanting to have children is like wanting to have a romantic partner, it's instinctive.

But it's still selfish when you consider most people are kinda shitty as parents and they don't want to raise or love a human being (neither do I - it's hard and this is a shitty world); they want a baby. Or not even - they want to have sex without birth control. It's animalistic.

Simple as that.

I don't understand how women want children with men when so many men in particular are guilty of this. Men want kids because they no fucking idea how miserable and boring it is raising children and their own parents socialized them to nothing different.

I don't understand how anyone who has experienced serious sadness or hardship in their lives wants children and assume that person is very stupid in general...because you will probably pass whatever gave you sorrow to your child. Particularly as an adult. I am repulsed at the thought of not only being pregnant, but putting my and my disgusting, ugly, bloat-faced mother's face into a little baby. The acne. The body hair. You could not pay me any amount of money to do so.

Sorry if I'm offending parents here, but...yeah, in the abstract, this is what I've come to.

(38wao)
I feel like this about being born.

Why did my parents think it was a good idea to have kids? Both of my parents have been dealing with depression and the family history is full of it.

My father has a nasty temper with narcissitic tendencies and my mom is ugly and chronically ill. I resent my mother for having kids with my father knowing that he would be abusive and being so weak that she would just watch.

Both me and my sister have been depressed and anxious to the point of having to go to a child therapist. I had a stay in the psychiatry when I was only 13.

I loathe my parents for giving me all those shitty genetics and inflicting their issues on me.

(MsSinisteress)
I feel like giving birth to a child and actually taking care of it is the most selfless thing you can do. And by selfless I mean being a fucking pushover. Because humans are more equipped to rearing children collectively, as if in a group, where we treat kids as part of a group. But the modern structure enables rearing single parentship based on your financial resources, so it's asking to raising a demon for 18 years without having anything in return + enduring 9 months of pain for it. You owe nothing to a child but the modern structure makes raising it a necessity, and in turn there's no payback.

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