Re: Survey results released December 10/18: 76 percent of Australians - both men and women - say men are victims of sexism

Typical feminist propaganda article. Where to begin? Let's see...

The survey painted a complex picture of gender equality, with 76 per cent of men and women saying men are victims of sexism, and 45 per cent of men and women believing that feminism has gone "too far" – despite the survey also finding that 60 per cent young women in Australia have suffered gender inequality, from sexual harassment to workplace discrimination.

Funny how after the survey reveals the percentage who feels that men experience sexism, and that feminism has gone too far, the author still states, "despite" and then citing the percentage of women who have suffered gender inequality. Maybe I'm nitpicking, but what is the purpose of the "despite"? Is the author implying that because women are suffering gender inequality, people feeling that men experience sexism is somehow something that should not make sense? This seems like an example of zero sum game mentality. "Because women face shit, people feeling that men face shit is wrong."

Let's continue.

One factor is the dramatic economic changes fuelled by globalisation which has created a growing male underclass who are not sharing the fruits of prosperity. These men are doing it tough, and for them – she believes feminism can be an easy scapegoat. However, their plight is the result of fundamental economic changes, not feminism, Dr. Lumby points out, citing the disappearance of the traditional blue-collar manufacturing and mining base in her hometown of Newcastle.

Ah the old, "feminism is good, guys, I swear!" mantra.

These men would be better off demanding action from political leaders for better labour rights and conditions, but alarmingly, politicians around the world are increasingly exploiting the politics of male grievance for electoral gain.

What does she have to say about politicians who do the same for female grievance? "Brave", would be my guess. No acknowledgment of issues tat needed to be addressed, either. So of course she is surprised when politicians find out that there is some ground here that be run upon, and maybe improve the lives of their constituents.

Some are increasingly prey to not just the darker side of social media which legitimises and amplifies the politics of male resentment – she cites the incel movement and the more radical fringes of the Men’s Right movement - but the rise of charismatic speakers such as Canadian academic Jordan Peterson. For all its positive campaigns such #MeToo, social media can also “sharpen differences and this creates echo chambers.”

Nice analysis lol. So after guys getting told their voice doesn't matter, and #believeallwomen and all that jazz, she's shocked they retreat to the only spaces where they don't get told that they're useless and not needed? And not only that, but she can still put the blame on those movements as if they started this shitstorm. Give me a break. Again, no word on the negatives of #metoo. She still thinks it's a perfect thing that happened.

So why then do almost half of both men and women believe feminism has gone “too far”, according to the survey? Dr Lumby believes that this has a lot to do with how people define the label “feminist” - many associate it with radicalism and man-hating.

I wonder why. Again, no introspection on the feminism movement in the real world. She is able to pinpoint the extremes of men's groups, but not feminism, no that's untouchable! "Feminism is perfect" mentality is still strong here.

Dr. Lumby believes the negative view of feminism is part of wider backlash against the strides made by women and other minorities in recent years, spearheaded by disenfranchised men claiming reverse discrimination. This growing culture of victimhood is built on male resentment over being forced to share power, she believes. To them, giving slices of a pie to others – women, people of colour, migrants, asylum-seekers – means less pie for them. This is despite men still dominating the levers of power, be it in politics or the corporate world, she points out.

And she knows this, how? Has she asked those people and did they state that they don't want to give up a slice of their pie? Nice projection. This is a shaming tactic, to make people think that the backlash is because they're racist or sexist or whatever. No sources, no evidence, just wild claims all around. This is your feminism in media, folks.

Men may have workplace challenges but they don’t face “the fundamental structural discrimination that is structured into the workplace and our world. Women deal with [it], people of colour deal with [it]. It’s not ad hoc.”

"You may have issues, but we are still more oppressed, so we have priority. kthnx bye." Look, the professor of the survey is not totally stupid, she is able to recognise some things that are happening in the real world.

It’s a tough time to be a young man, she says.

So why then is to so hard to ask why? And investigate why? Instead of making bogus claims about men being sexist and racist, she could have gone deeper and maybe, and I know this is a weird thing to do but, ask men for their thoughts instead of putting hers into their minds?