How is it that God is cruel. who is it that does wrong, us or him. Suppose you mum said dont eat the cookie from the cookie jar. Would you do it, probably. So you go and do it and get punished [by being tortured in hell for eternity].
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How benevolent. Eternal damnation for one cookie. And, of course, not only the cookie, oh, hell no. You must touch nothing in the kitchen, and you must stay there till you die, while surviving at the same time, but if you don't, you'll be punished again. Makes any sense?
"Suppose you mum said dont eat the cookie from the cookie jar. Would you do it, probably"
Actually I'd get a part-time job, earn my own money, and buy my own biscuits.
There's your theory completely fucked.
In the real world, cookies wait patiently in the cookie jar for the opportunity to be chosen for consumption.
Please remind yourself of the true meaning and purpose of Cookies.
As I understand it, the purpose of punishment it to correct future behaviour. So, by your own analogy, if I'm punished for eating the cookie, I won't eat one, next time. alas, eternity is forever: there won't be a next time. If the possibility of correcting future behaviour is removed, the only other motive for punishing someone is spite. Are you telling me that your god is nothing more than spiteful?
It depends, would I be allowed to eat a cookie for dessert after dinner? If I wasn't allowed to have a cookie ever I'd probably steal it but if I just had to wait I probably wouldn't.
This is assuming I couldn't just buy my own cookies which I can.
Also, eternal torture is pretty pointless as a punishment. The point of punishment is to teach people that their behavior is wrong so they won't do it again. If you torture them forever they won't have an opportunity to do it again, nor will they have any incentive to really repent the mistake they made in the first place.
Not to mention the fact that there is noooo possible way anybody could ever do something bad enough on earth to deserve an eternity of suffering. Maybe a good long time of punishment geared towards teaching them that what they did was bad and encouraging them to feel genuinely sorry about it but not an eternity of pointless torture.
In my view, an ideal afterlife would have...like videos or something that everybody would have to watch, that would show everything they ever did, and ALSO cause the person to feel the physical and emotional effects their actions had on others, both good and bad. When each person truly UNDERSTOOD the effects each act had on other people, and was truly honestly sorry for all the pain they had caused others through thoughtlessness, pettiness etc would they be allowed to enter Paradise.
"There is no cake. The cake is a lie."
P.S. What kind of parent punishes his children, his grandchildren, his... n-children, and, eventually, all the children in the world for a whole eternity for eating ONE LOUSY COOKIE?
That's exactly why your definition of God as a just and good being is flawed.
Being punished eternally for committing a finite transgression is unjust, therefore your concept of God is flawed and thus can't be perfect. Should I just keep going?
My mom usually just scolded me for that. Even more serious offenses were punished swiftly then moved on from.
No wonder so many fundies are child abusers, if that's the mentality they have.
"Suppose you mum said dont breathe. Would you do it, probably. So you go and do it and get punished"
Editted to better reflect God's standard of fairness.
Torture over a fucking cookie?!
Fuck you and your psychotic god
There's a reason we don't sentence people to death for misdemeanors: IT IS FUCKING CRUEL
you putz
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