So long as you're a Catholic of the: abortion-loving, adulterous, fornicator, LGBT variety (take your pick) - democrats will love and welcome you. Otherwise, in their mind, you have no place in government. I fault RC bishops around the world for not excommunicating every Catholic (politician or otherwise) who supports or condones godlessness. IMHO, people like Cardinal Dolan and his colleagues prefer rubbing shoulders and being in the limelight with the likes of the Baldwins, Pelosis and Bidens of this world - than rebuke and excommunicate them.
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Since when are Catholics abortion-loving?
Trump is an adulterous, fornicator variety. Democrats definitely don't love him.
I'd say the Catholic Church can't afford to excommunicate everyone you don't like. It needs to hold onto every follower it can.
Any power structure is going to have lots of people at the upper levels who LIKE power, who WANT power.
Now here is a lower-echelon participant in that power structure who ...er...WANTS the power to tell the upper levels what they should do. Lots of luck.
In Soviet Ireland, Catholics excommunicate you .
Since 2015, the RC bishops etc have been socio-politically castrated in three referendums. That's the power of democracy over religion. In Soviet Ireland, God worships you .
A religion's absolute political rule over a country destroyed between 2015 & 2018. Your 'God' metaphorically riddled with bullets - .45 cal. hollowpoint iron rounds: 'Judges 1:19 Specials' - from a Thompson machine gun that is the Power of the People .
Happy New Year, ya filthy animal! [/"Home Alone II"]
@Swede :
Obviously no one actually loves abortion, anymore than people love any medical procedure. Saying that someone is "abortion-loving" is like saying that someone is "appendectomy-loving" or "cardiac-bypass-loving". It makes no sense.
That said, a decent percent of Catholics in the US (not priests or bishops, but average church-goers) support the right of women to choose abortion. Which is a good thing. This guy believes that they should be excommunicated for that.
Because if the RCC went around publicly excommunicating people they deemed unworthy, they'd look like the crazy fundamentalist nutjob extremists on the far right of the religion spectrum. Besides, the church doesn't excommunicate someone for their political leanings. They only excommunicate someone for committing serious offenses in the church such as disrespecting the sacrament (the wine & wafer) or becoming an apostate or procuring an abortion for someone. But I think the RCC is smart enough to look at the books and see dwindling attendance at their churches and realize that a few high profile excommunications of celebrities and political leaders would not do them any favors. It's not like the ones being excommunicated are going to change their political stances because of it, and the church will lose more members.
But it's not like the church regularly hands out excommunications. It's not like the Jehovah's Witness church which disfellowships members who are then shunned. I don't know what you have to actually do to get the church to excommunicate you. I've been out of the church for years but am still on the mailing list. I have a feeling that if the church routinely handed out excommunications to ex-Catholics, they'd have a pretty big office with full-time staff just to handle that task.
And BTW, the RCC probably doesn't agree that what you perceive as "godlessness" is the same thing they perceive it as. There are quite a few Catholics who tend to be liberal.
Right, right. That works. Everyone politician who is a practicing Catholic needs to make it clear that they ONLY represent the interests of the RCC.
And any place that the Catholics do not comprise the majority of the voters, they will just have absolutely NO voice in the government, as no one else will want them in power.
Then we tax the Catholic Church as a political organization. Or at least regulate them as a non-profit PAC. The IRS can audit their records...
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