I'm not claiming that a corner is not a corner.
I'm defining what a corner is, and then demonstrating that a sphere has 4 corners! Anybody with a shred of Intellectual decency, humility and honesty would do the same.
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What is fundy about this? I can't get into CARM without signing up to see what the thread is about, but other than being just mind-numbingly stupid...Oh, I finally get it. Earth-sphere-four corners. Trying to justify the Babble.
Hey, bright boy, spheres don't have corners, you moron.
madDog, most bricks have eight corners.
Casey, no, spheres do not have 4 corners. However, I would just love to hear this explanation of yours...
I just handed my son a ball and asked him how many corners it has.
"Umm... it doesn't have ANY corners!"
My four-year-old is smarter than Casey Powell...
I think my three-year-old is too, but since she's taking a nap, I can't ask her.
Anyone with a shred of intellectual decency, humility, and honesty would laugh their freakin' asses off at you, Casey.
He is sort of right you know. I could pick any random object and any random attribute and define the attribute in such a way that the object has those attributes. That is how new words are made, pick a few words, slam them together and apply to a situation. Voila, word creation Shakespeare style.
But accepting everyone else to accept your definitions by default is just insane, especially if they are counter intuitive like corners on a sphere. Hell, I'd be suprised if he could point out 4 distinct things a sphere has! The most you could get is two for the inside and outside, but four? There aren't enough features on a sphere for that.
He's also the Casey Powell of FSM-hatemail fame.
Ohhhhhhhh that's why the name sounds familiar.
"I'm not claiming that a corner is not a corner.
I'm defining what a corner is, and then demonstrating that a sphere has 4 corners!"
When one redefines "corner" to such an extent that it can be used to describe an attribute of a sphere, it surely can no longer be used to apply to what it formerly meant -- at least, not in any meaningful way. He might just as well have started out with words that actually describe a sphere, except that his whole point was to try to apply the term "corners" to spheres. The only truthful way to do that would be to have it preceded by these words: "They don't have any."
"Anybody with a shred of Intellectual decency, humility and honesty would do the same."
"Corner" isn't the only term he has decided to redefine to suit his purposes here; "intellectual decency, humility and honesty" are evidently being heavily redefined as well.
~David D.G.
Why, of course! You're right: a sphere has four corners.
(While giving a lecture in a freshman music literature class, I gave the same response to an obviously brainless freshman ootzie who INSISTED that Elvira Madigan wrote the Concerto in C Major , K. 467, and not Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. I tried correcting her and telling her that "Elvira Madigan" was the movie which featured Mozart's Concerto in C Major , K. 467. "Oh, no!" she responded, "it's the other way around! Elvira Madigan wrote the music!"
(I stopped in the middle of my lecture, smiled at her, and said, "Well, of course. You're right. How silly of me!"
(On the next exam I used the question, "Who wrote Mozart's Concerto in C Major, K. 467 ?" to which she responded, "Elvira Madigan" - and marked her wrong.
(When people insist on demonstrating how stupid they really are to me, by all means -- I let them !"
Casey: "I'm not claiming a corner is not a corner. That'd be completely ridiculous, insane, illogical, unrealistic, fantastical, and utterly absurd. It'd be outside the bounds of science, logic, and reason. What sort of idiot do you think I am? Why in heaven's name would I willingly ensnare myself in such a trap of fallacy?
(Insert obvious punchline here)."
"CT: No, that would be a tetrahedron. A pyramid has 5 corners."
David, sorry to break it to you, but a Tetrahedron has 5 corners...
A pyramid is any shape that has triangular sides meeting in a point, with a Polygonal base. (Polygonal being any shape with 3 or more sides)
Basically, a Pyramid can have any number of corners, starting from 4 and going up...
Panda, Nick, I won the $10,000 bet on timecube.com! I did it by being even more insanely retarded then the webmaster and asserting that there aren't 4 days in one, but 24, one for each time zone. I expect he'll either ignore or vilify me.
CT and DG -
"A pyramid is a three-dimensional polyhedron formed by connecting an n-sided polygonal base and a point, called the apex, by n triangular faces (n ¡Ý 3). In other words, it is a conic solid with polygonal base."
"A tetrahedron (plural: tetrahedra) is a polyhedron composed of four triangular faces, three of which meet at each vertex. A regular tetrahedron is one in which the four triangles are regular, or "equilateral," and is one of the Platonic solids. A tetrahedron is a triangular pyramid."
- MK
I hope some of you are being silly, because your statements about bricks having four corners and pyramids having four is just... well... silly.
However, it's nowhere near as silly as Casey Powell. A sphere has four corners? Don't make me laugh.
MK: Thanks for the detailed information. I never knew that about the term "pyramid" being applicable with any number of sides.
The term "tetradron," however, I am relieved to see I used correctly. So I was still half right.
~David D.G.
I read the thread (my brain, oh, my brain)... he's arguing that a *circle* has four corners, a top, bottom, left and right, and therefore so does a sphere. He thinks Earth is an octahedron, and he can't count vertices.
Yeah, right.
Reminds me of a "method" to catch a lion:
You put a cage in the middle of the Serengeti. You sit inside the cage, and lock it. And then you define the inside of the cage to be the outside, and the space outside of the cage to be in the inside. Voila: You have catched the lion and imprisoned him in your cage!
"I'm defining what a corner is, and then demonstrating that a sphere has 4 corners!"
So, I'm guessing that job as one of the lexicographers, researchers, etymologists, academics, scholars and Emeritus Professors who collate & publish the Oxford English Dictionary - the definitive collection of official words in the English language - and what defines such - didn't work out for you eh, Casey?
Reality doesn't bend to your will, I think you'll find. Least of all Mathematical .
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Not even your 'God' could warp reality to be able to build a wheel on the Biblical mathematical model (and thus, by definition, his own 'Word') that Pi = exactly 3. When the ancient Greeks - as in pre -Biblical could prove to the contrary with as near as dammit mathematical precision.
"and then demonstrating that a sphere has 4 corners!"
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List! What is yon sound in the distance? Why, it's the sound of all the kindergarten children - never mind Emeritus Professors of Mathematics - in the world, laughing their tits off at you.
A corner is already defined, silly. It's the "end" of polygon box, with lots of angles going out from it, sort of.
The Bible doesn't talk about a sphere, silly, it talks about a disk.
Anybody with a shred of intellectual decency, humility and honesty would discard the source that force you to redefine things, and accept the source that instead explains things.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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