Better to be anti “science” and pro-God than anti-God and pro- “science”. Science won’t get you to Heaven.
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That's because heaven doesn't exist.
These are a few of the things made possible by science:
- Organ transplantation surgery
- Vaccination
- Fast communication and information exchange on a global scale
- Computing machines that will soon surpass the computing power of the human brain
- An ever better understanding of the cosmos and our place in it
"Science won’t get you to Heaven."
No, but it'll definitely keep you out of it for longer (average lifespan has doubled, infant mortality rate one fiftieth that of two centuries ago, etc.).
We have semiconductor physics. We win.
@LOLWUT
"Computing machines that will soon surpass the computing power of the human brain"
They have already, really. The average person can't do billions of calculations a second or remember terabytes of data without any fault. Now we just need a way of using this hardware to create AI.
Going to Mars is now a valid virtual experience, thanks to Science. We know where Mars is, btw.
Nobody has found Heaven, so it doesn't exist in the real universe.
Bitch, if you can prove that heaven exists as a place that can be experienced, I guarantee we would be able to figure out a way to get there using the scientific method. Hell, if it has oil/fuel, and we're under a conservative president at the time, we might annex the whole place.
Prove it exists first. Then we'll talk.
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"Why does everything have to be exclusive? Why can't you embrace science and God and understand that if there is a God, he/she/it is bigger than that petty little Bronze age tyrant who you worship?"
Because, if the "shepherds" who rake in hundreds of millions of tax-free dollars each year allowed that, they'd soon go broke for want of enough "sheep", that's why.
Nor will your god get me into Middle-Earth, or Oz, or any other place that DOESN'T FUCKING EXIST. In contrast, the benefits of science hell, just rational thought are tangible and abundant.
Well there you go, don't use any form of science (including the damn computer you're typing on) and you'll get to heaven faster.
Remember absolutely no science.
@ArmandT:
True, though given that they think heaven is such a neat place, I know plenty of Christians who are apparently in no hurry to get there!
And I'm not just talking an aversion to suicide here either. I know a couple of born-agains who eat right, get plenty of exercise, get regular checkups, etc., while simultaneously expounding the infinite virtue of heaven.
Since they believe that they will die at a time preordained by God, and according to his ineffable plan, presumably no amount of greens will delay that event by a single day, and no amount of smoking, drinking or junk food will hasten it.
So why bother? It can't be to "feel good while alive" since, a la Job, God can supposedly take their health away or restore it in an instant.
I can only comprehend it as still having more than a little bit of angst about being dead. Nagging doubt, it's both the best and worst kind.
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Guess what?
@ LOLWUT: Yeah, that's when we get to see what survival of the fittest really means, up close and personal. Eeep.
Oooh, and what about that SF story (was it Asimov?) where they built the superintelligence and asked it 'Is there a God?', and it replied 'There is now'.
Prometheus, they say, brought gods fire down to man
And we've caught it, tamed it, trained it since our history began
Now we're going back to heaven, just to look him in the eye,
and there's a thunder 'cross the land, and a fire in the sky.
-- Fire in the Sky
But science shows it to be very unlikely Heaven exists (the logical conclusion, based on neuroscience, is that life simply stops after death), so it doesn't really matter anyway.
And deliberate and persistent lying about evolution, the big bang, the second law of thermodynamics, carbon 14 dating, the Paluxy river footprints, the age of Mt. St. Helens dacites, the Nebraska tooth, the Piltdown affair, the age of the Earth, the bombardier beetle and dozens of other things will get you there?
"Better to be anti “science”
Stop using that computer for starters then, dickhead. I think you'll find it wan't made by God, nor is 'Faith' it's OS. It's not powered by 'Belief'. Computers aren't mentioned in the Bible, neither.
Indeed, leave that nice comfy house, and throw away all your clothes. For everything you own is the product of scientific discovery and development.
If you're as 'Pro-God' as you claim, go and live in a cave, wearing only animal skins (because cloth made of two different materials is strictly verboten as stated in Leviticus), shivering in the cold (because making fire is an application of science too) whilst waiting for that lovely 'Rapture'. And have fun when you get infected teeth & gums because dental science that would treat such is SO evil, I'm sure you'll agree. As with all other forms of medical science that would treat you whenever you had an injury or ailment. Face it, science makes the world go round (pun may or may not be intended!). And you're a willing participant in it whenever you start your computer, switch on that light, drive that car, cook that food, and so on.
And all of that created by scientists. As in Men & Women. As in NOT God. So go on. Do what I've just stated. Because if you don't, then you're being Pro-Science, and Anti-God.
"Why does everything have to be exclusive? Why can't you embrace science and God and understand that if there is a God, he/she/it is bigger than that petty little Bronze age tyrant who you worship?" -- Anonymous
"Because, if the "shepherds" who rake in hundreds of millions of tax-free dollars each year allowed that, they'd soon go broke for want of enough "sheep", that's why." -- Rat of Steel
Carl Sagan stated in Demon-Haunted World that most religions require small deities in order to function. A grander form of God would totally wreck the belief system.
Better to be anti-reality and pro-fairy-tale, than anti-fairy-tale and pro-reality? Seriously?
Sciencie will keep you longer here on Earth, and make your stay here more comfortable. We don't know anything about what might come next, why concentrate on the unknown?
"Science won't get you to heaven".
Neither will religion. What, did you actually believe that tall tale they told you? Simpleton.
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