[22-year-old Nick Wallis, who has muscular dystrophy, had hoped to experience sex before he died. After telling staff at the Douglas House hospice in Oxford of his wish, they decided to help him, reported London's DailyTelegraph.]
Wonder if he would have requested losing his virginity to a sheep, cow or chicken, wonder if they could have talked the farmer into loaning one of his animals to help a dying mans last request. Simple amazing how the world will help sin along.
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I'm sorry, but only the sickest of individuals could object to a dying man's wish to experience physical intimacy just once, before his *lifelong, debilitating* disease claims him. Jezebel has the word on those with no concept of kindness.
Chie, when you die - and given your apparent hatred of anything vaguely "lustful", you will likely die a virgin - look back on your life and ask yourself, "Did I truly enjoy it?"
Just because your first sexual experience was with an actual farm animal doesn't mean others want the same thing, Chie. Or was it just someone one hung like one. I bet your brother is very popular! (Sorry for this, everyone, but I just couldn't help myself.)
Oh, you should see the rest of that thread. Everyone is on the same wavelength as this guy, so overly worried that some guy is going to have SEX before he DIES, and it will be *gasp* OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE!
"Gluttony is also a sin, but I wonder how many Christians would have noticed, let alone cared, if he had asked for a large supply of Black Forrest Gateaux to gorge himself silly on.
I can't imagine how devasting it must be to comtemplate your own approaching mortality, decide you want to experience one of the most wonderful things in life, and then have people call you sinful for it.
How fucked. Putting aside the indignity of having to involve not just medical personnel but his parents in such a personal experience, how could anyone begrudge him one of life's great pleasures? If he hadn't found a religion that was fundie enough for those posters at the time he had sex, he probably wasn't going to. And if the sin committed is one that hurts no one besides himself, what business do they have judging him? He's already headed for hell; at least Satan will have something really good to use against him.
Think a lot about sex with animals, Chie? An awful lot of you fundies keep talking about beastiality, buggery, and sodomy! Uhm, could there be some latent sexual issues with you guys?PS The guy got what he wanted before he died, so I doubt he cares what you self-righteous hypocrites think!
As animals cannot give informed consent, fulfilling a request for bestiality would be unethical, however, sex between consenting adults is just fine.
The rather wonderful part is that Douglas House is a Christian foundation run by nuns. This story has affirmed my faith in humanity somewhat.
And that's really what has the fundies' panties in a knot. If this were a non-Christian hospice, they wouldn't give a shit. But because it is Christian, they're mad that these nuns "helped him sin" by helping him have sex outside of marriage.
So it isn't that they care about Nick or his eternal soul, no no... they're just mad that a Christian hospice stepped outside the boundaries of the fundamentalists' ideology. Maybe they're even worried this will make Christians "look bad." But I don't think any one of them cares at all about the young man himself.
No, what's amazing is how some people will fall all over themselves to judge someone else, or begrudge them one final pleasure. What's amazing is how some people can be so uptight over sex that, if someone gets any pleasure from it, or wants to experience it just one time in a life that can't have been that much fun otherwise, they immediately think up the sickest things they can to compare it with. That's some real compassion, right there.
One thing is having casual sex, and other, very different other, is throwing stones at this poor guy, who, no matter how mistaken he can be, he´s doing harm to nobody and the only one he has to pay his dues to is God and only God. How do you know that just because you don´t agree with pre-marital sex, everybody not doing so is committing zoophilia?, it´s a rethorical question but I will answer anyway. Because you´re so obsessed with sex and with holding to your status as holier-than-thou, that instead of bothering to read what the NT really says or how the hospital was really going to do(maybe to marry him), and moreover, forgive and sympathise with the guy, the only thing you can say is, "oh Jesus, they´re not being religious enough"
"Wonder if he would have requested losing his virginity to a sheep, cow or chicken, wonder if they could have talked the farmer into loaning one of his animals to help a dying mans last request."
I'm not quite sure *why* he jumped from sex with humans to sex with animals, but then agan I don't really *want* to know. omphalocele ). So while I could write an essay on the morality of this situation from the perspective of someone who is only alive due to modern medicine, I will just say 1)this was a good and kind thing for them to do for a dying man innocent of deserving to be born with this and 2)why would an omninbenevolent God give someone a disease like this if it would lead to sin? Wouldn't it just lead to eternal suffering in Hell instead of just earthly suffereing?
To me it's just more proof that Genesis's account of creation is an ancient fairytale.
SaneChick , I don't want to be a bummer here, but I'm staring down both barrels of mortality due to cancer. Fortunately I'm surrounded by kind loving people who don't try to shove their morality down my throat! Captain Janeway , Five words. Get an attorney. Living will.
I'm so tempted to mention the past records of court cases regarding the oh-so-holy Puritans and... encounters with farm animals. They may have been preaching fire and brimstone, but man, they must not have been too afraid of it.
Eileen , Marnanel , thanks for reminding me that there are compassionate and well-grounded Christians too.cheapthrills , I wish you good luck.
Dear Chie,
I hope the prostitute hired to help Nick gave him mind-blowing sex so good that the rest of us could only dream of being so lucky.
SaneChick, I don't want to be a bummer here, but I'm staring down both barrels of mortality due to cancer. Fortunately I'm surrounded by kind loving people who don't try to shove their morality down my throat! cheapthrills , I'm so sorry to hear that, but I'm glad you're surrounded by people who love you. You'd be in my prayers if I prayed, but all I can do is wish you the very best and encourage you to fight as hard as you can.
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