Nicholas Copernicus- Believed in God
Johannes Kepler- Believed in God
Galileo Galilei- Believed in God
Isaac Newton- Believed in God
Albert Einstien- Believed in God
Stephen Hawking- Atheist,quadruplegic, unable to speak
Get the picture??
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Oh, good grief! What the heck is it with people wanting to beat up on Stephen Hawking this month?
By the way, Galileo Galilei certainly did believe in God -- though a fat lot of good that did him, since God's Earthly representative imprisoned him for refusing to sweep his knowledge under the rug. That's a heck of a lot more obvious as "divine punishment" than Dr. Hawking's disability, if you ask me -- and it was perpetrated on a believer.
~David D.G.
David D.G. - Galileo's actions that bothered the Pope weren't so much his observations of the motions of planets, in fact the best Catholic astronomers were coming to the similar opinions. Galileo went out of favour because of a book he wrote with a character called "Simplicius" (i.e. Simple) who represented the views of the Pope. The Pope was more bothered by Galileo's bullying of various other astronomers as well.
Revilo: Okay, point taken; I've never grasped the politics of that era very well (heck, I don't easily grasp ours nowadays). Still, the point stands that a believer was directly punished by God's Earthly representative, making mat740's implied point rather more shaky even than it was to start with.
~David D.G.
@David D.G.
Oh, good grief! What the heck is it with people wanting to beat up on Stephen Hawking this month?
Theyr'e probably the same kind of people who would pick on retards, beat up midgets, and push people in wheelchairs down stairwells.
Fundie, idiotic monkey who is unable to think by himself and would make an exception and demand euthanasia if he or she was suffering that illness that makes Hawkins, even though, a hero to overcome his difficulties. Get the picture?
From "Albert Einstein: The Human Side," edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, published by Princeton University Press:
"It was, of course, a lie ... about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal god and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly."
From the same book:
"I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it."
Yes, but I thought that only fundamentalist Christians were true ones. And none of these cats were fundies. So, by that logic, even if they believed in a "god," it isn't "the real God." And so they all should burn in hell.
/fundie
I get that you're trying to prove your favorite fantasy by making him look like an overwhelming asshole. If God likes to pick on atheists, why didn't he pick on Isaac Asimov, Alfred Kinsey, or even Karl Marx, Mr. "Religion... ...is the opiate of the masses " himself? Hell, why didn't he pick on me? I was in a nasty wreck when I was younger, and he would have had the perfect opportunity to cripple me in the same manner as Hawking. You can't prove anything by citing a single example, except that you're a vindictive jerkoff who probably shouldn't be allowed out in public.
"madDog: You wound me. There are plenty of posts wherein I merely call them idiots (or morons), following a negation of their point (if they have a point...)."
And sometimes you call them bitch too, heh heh heh
Weren't about half that list imprisioned by the church at some point?
Hmm, I could be wrong, and assigning one I know was, to the lot of them.
Cherry-picking your examples much? There are a very large number of atheists who are not quadruplegic. There are also a fair number of Christians who are.
As for the other scientists you listed, Einstein was certainly not Christian, nor anything resembling one. He rather specifically said he did not believe in a personal God. Galilei was imprisoned by church authorities. None of them were fundies.
"Nicholas Copernicus- Believed in God, dead
Johannes Kepler- Believed in God, dead
Galileo Galilei- Believed in God, dead
Isaac Newton- Believed in God, dead
Albert Einstien- Believed in God, dead
Stephen Hawking- Atheist, not dead
Get the picture??"
Obviouisly, theism kills.
All I can say is that Stephen Hawking is a brilliant, witty, and wonderful human being, and mat740 is a pissant Internet phantom.
Damn Zipperback, I was going to do that!
Although I was going to rewrite Stephen Hawking as - Atheist, celebrated physicist, renowned author.
Yet again I am completly blown away by individuals who seem to be competant enough to use a computer and create words and sentences yet have not a clue in the world, or any ideas that come close to reflecting what they claim their bible states about loving and forgiving. And of course, their 'points' are usually culled from the innermost reaches of their colons.
Dr. Hawkings in his deteriorated physical condition could bury someone with a deteriorated mental condition like this heartless, retarded, deluded self-righteous prick any day.
Mat740 you need to stop breathing my air before I stop your lungs for you.
Nicholas Copernicus- Believed in God, but was locked up by the Church for contradicting God's Acme Special True Word.
Johannes Kepler- Believed in God
Galileo Galilei- Believed in God, but was locked up by the Church for contradicting God's Acme Special True Word.
Isaac Newton- Believed in God, but disliked organized religion.
Albert Einstien- Believed in a distant impersonal deist god who had nothing to do with humanity and didn't intervene in the universe in any way.
Stephen Hawking- Atheist, one of the most brillinat minds today despite being one of many people with physical disabilities. Leads a satisfying life despite his condition, with no need for "faith" to help him get through it.
Get the picture?
Ronald Reagan- helped the Religious Right become a major political lobby, got Alzheimer's. God doesn't punish ANYONE with ailments, natch; I'm just making the point that theists of all flavors have been known to get sick too.
Stephen Hawking is one of the top ten smartest people in the world today, if not the smartest.
What are you trying to say? Are you trying to say that he's crippled because he doesn't believe in god? If so, die in a fire.
Newtone, theistic alchemist.
Einstein, not anything like a personal Xian god
"God does not play dice with the universe."
Pretty much one of the few quotes I can find by Einstein that support any concept of God. If Einstein believed in a supreme being, he was likely talking about a Deist God.
And Stephen Hawking is one of the greatest minds of our time, if not THE greatest, period. If you have to be confined to a wheeelchair to attain brilliance, maybe it's a good thing.
Also, wasn't Newton obsessed with the Book of Revelation?
Galileo was imprisoned by the church for introducing the heliocentric model, opposing the geocentric model in use by the church. (As far as I know, anyway; the church went crazy because he didn't support them exactly the way he said he should.)
Albert Einstein didn't believe in the Christian god, but in a deist god.
And that is an unbelievably low blow to Hawking. He's one of the greatest minds on the planet, and all you see is his being quadriplegic. DIAF.
Hmmm, 4 heretics, a agonstic, & a atheist...
Newton was a Arianist, who do not believe in the Holy Trinity, & if he did not live in Britian at the time, would very probably been executed by the Inquision, for his heresy, i.e he would have been burnt alive at the stake...
Nicholas Copernicus- Believed in God, DEAD
Johannes Kepler- Believed in God, DEAD
Galileo Galilei- Believed in God, DEAD
Isaac Newton- Believed in God, DEAD
Albert Einstien- Believed in God, DEAD
Stephen Hawking- Atheist,quadruplegic, unable to speak, NOT DEAD
Get the picture?
Yes. They were all responsible for phenomenal advances in science, but the one who was an atheist managed in spite of some of the most severe handicaps possible.
That is what you were getting at isn't it?
So God is peronally smiting Stephen Hawking ? good to know.
By the way, he is not a quadruplegic although it may make no practicle difference. Oddly enough it was science that made the speech device he uses to communicate, the breathing assist and the chair that moves him where he wants to go.
the picture? That Jesus "didn't" die for everyone's sins? Seems to be what you're saying since he actively and presently punishes non-believers (often times before they are even born).
So which is it? Did Jesus die for our sins or not?
Yeah, because it happened like this:
Prof. Hawking: "I don't believe in God--hey, where'd my ability to move under my own power and express myself verbally go?"
Y'know who else believed in God? Not gonna Godwin, too easy, so...David Berkowitz, Timothy McVeigh, James Earl Ray, Torquemada, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, and...well, it goes on like that for a while.
I believe Steve Hawking suffers from ALS like the baseball player Lou Gerhig.
what was your point ? that scientists who believe in God but publish their theories are detained for life by the Pope ?
einstein didnt believe in the christian god.
Galileo may have believed in God , or he was simply trying not to be tortured to deatrh by Holy Mother Church. Didnt they lock him up for life ?
Einstein , no he did not.
Newton, made nice cookies. (fig newtons *rimshot*)
Hawking, kept alive by God for not being a dick, and advancing human knowledge in spite of a debilitating illness.
what was your point ?
Damn, Zipperback beat me to the "They are all dead, except the atheist Hawking." comment, by 8 years...
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