Well then imagine a world without religion, great huh? Wrong!!...Because then tomorrow I could come kill your family, your pets, your friends, and likely you; and then myself..guess what, NO REPERCUSSIONS...yes, thanks to you I can kill everybody.....thanks for the help buddy.....everybody go kill everybody else...whoever's left wins!!...
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If religion is the only thing keeping you from going on a murderous spree, you are one sorry excuse of a human being. Yesh.
Most of us don't kill because we realize it's the right thing to do to be nice to others, not because of "the great surveillance camera in the sky" (thank you, Richard Dawkins!).
And never mind the statistics that show that religion and crime rates correlate. Not to say religion causes crime, but it definitely undermines the deluded idea that religion prevents crime.
When you combine "If god wasn't stopping me I'd rape and murder everything including myself" with "And if I pray to him he forgives me for all of it! yay god!", you get...
well, you get the contents of our prisons, wanted posters, and eccelsiarchies.
In religion (at least, in Christianity) you can do all the nasty and malicious things you want short of murdering someone, and as long as you go tell a priest and say some nice words to a wall, you're completely off the hook. No guilt whatsoever, because your sins are always cleansed.
Outside of religion, we realize that there are actual consequences to our actions, and so we refrain from hurting other people - not because The Babble Says So, but because it hurts other people .
The world that TalesoftheGoldMonkey describes sounds a lot like a world where religion is mandatory.
You know, TalesoftheGoldMonk is actually right. People who commit crimes never get arrested. They never get convicted or sent to prison or labor camps. They never get shunned by the community or prevented from finding work. The only bad thing that happens to them is whatever the Invisible Sky Father does t them.
Oh...wait...never mind, I was confusing fantasy and reality again.
I would be your repercussion! In a world with or without religion you would be just as dead if you try to break into my house and hurt my wife and children! Sorry my friend, you have made a case for government, not religion.
Bring it on internet tough guy.
I'm well armed, extensively trained, and licensed to carry.
Great minds think alike.
I regularily DO imagine a world without religion.
The fact that you admit that your only connection with reality and sanity is your belief in a fairy-tale, yet I'm sure you consider atheists to be without morals whatsoever. So tell me, why is it that atheists aren't doing all of these murders and rapes? We have no shakey belief in sky-fairies, yet we aren't losing our shit.
If the only thing stopping you from suicide is your faith, just make sure you ask forgiveness just before you do it, and it'll be all right. :)
Tell me why it is that the religious always admit to wanting to kill absolutely everything that moves any time anyone wonders what life would be like without religion? Are they all that mentally disturbed, or are they just repeating a mantra without realizing the actual content the message sends along?
Because either one seems equally likely.
Note the bit about killing himself on the end of that little spree. The law really isn't much protection against that sort of killer.
Now, if that's really what he'd do if the fear of Gunderscored didn't keep him in check, he's got worse issues than mere sociopathy.
TotGM: If god exists, he can see through your shallow, hollow excuse for morality and he'll send you exactly where you deserve to go.
I hope for your sake that god doesn't exist, and I hope for ours that you never realize it.
Does anyone know if there is a corellation between low intrinsic morality and religosity?
Every pastor I've ever heard bemoaned their "wicked ways" before coming to Christ and, at least in those few case studies, what they did Was actually worse than my youthful misbehaviours (felonies as opposed to misdemeanors).
It's almost like when you hit 18, most people grow up on their own, but some need religion not to "kill everything that moves".
"Because then tomorrow I could come kill your family, your pets, your friends, and likely you; and then myself..guess what, NO REPERCUSSIONS...yes, thanks to you I can kill everybody.....thanks for the help buddy.....everybody go kill everybody else...whoever's left wins!!..."
That sounds a lot like the fundie wet dreams that get submitted here.
I don't like the whole "no religion" thing, but you, TOFTGM, have proved yourself to be a violent asshole.
No reprecussions, huh?
There's a very good chance that when you DO come over to kill my hypothetical pets, family, and friends, I will be waiting for you.
With an aluminum bat.
I don't think it'll be that bad.
Kill their god, and they will not be able to function at all...kill the controlling intelligence of the hive, and the insects will just wander off to die.
"Well then imagine a world without religion, great huh? Wrong!!...Because then tomorrow I could come kill your family, your pets, your friends, and likely you;"
That would be a world without law enforcement .
Also... "and then myself..guess what, NO REPERCUSSIONS" sounds funny.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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