Abortion numbers have dropped five percent -- the biggest one-year decrease in at least 10 years. An expert says abortion proponents are misinterpreting the significance of that figure.
What they are saying is it is due to better use of birth control during tough economic times. But Alliance Defending Freedom senior counsel Steven H. Aden tells OneNewsNow "the abortion industry talks out of both sides of its mouth" when it comes to figures like this. "Previously, the industry said that abortion figures tend to rise during a recession because more people are aborting their babies to avoid the economic consequences of childbirth," he points out.
"But with this drop in abortions during the recession, they're saying it's because of better birth control."
But Aden says that is false as well. Studies show birth control does not correlate with abortions at all. He says "what it really shows is that America is truly becoming more pro-life and that more women are wisely choosing to give life to their unborn babies."
In addition, government figures continue to show abortions are much higher among minorities.
"It's not surprising that the abortion industry would see a rise in abortions in minority populations because historically they've always targeted minorities for abortion," he says.
"In fact, Planned Parenthood itself was based on the eugenic principles of Margaret Sanger, who believed that birth control and abortion should be available to reduce the numbers of so-called 'undesirables' in the population."
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Just a wild-ass-guess, but we'll probably see that birth rates are down as well for the same period. As for targeting minorities for abortion, citation seriously fucking needed. I can at least confirm annecdotally from a friend who worked in a family planning clinic that the average person seeking an abortion is a mid forties white woman whose kids are in college and doesn't want to start a new family just because her BC failed.
Studies show birth control does not correlate with abortions at all.
That right there's a bold faced lie. After spending so many years keeping any semblance of an education regarding actual safe sex practices and birth control as far away from publicly accessible education as possible now that you've got another Democrat in office that education is being pushed through and people no longer think condoms break 100% of the time and come pre-laced with STDs. As a result, fewer unwanted pregnancies. Side effect of fewer unwanted pregnancies? Fewer abortions and way fewer back alley abandonments. And what the hell is this 'targetting minorities' crap? Call me crazy but I've yet to see pregnant women of any colour snatched off the street and forced to a clinic and if commercials actually promoting abortion as opposed to birth control actually exist I'll eat my hat. Minorities tend to be poor in your country, and poor people get shafted for education and have less hope to care for another human being.
You know when it was just one moron everyone should already know has a few loose screws rattling around I could laugh.
A single human being more than that and we've got a fucking tragedy.
How does one go from,"abortions are higher among minorities" to "a rise in abortions in minority populations." A higher rate of something within a specific demographic(if there really is one as you claim)does not equal a rise. That demographic can see a decrease and still be higher than other demographics.
Talk about "misinterpreting the significance of" figures. Lying for Jesus is still lying.
The country is not becoming more pro-life, seeing as how 51% of people think that abortion should be legal. But if you want to keep telling yourself that everyone agrees with you, go right ahead.
If these idiots really, truly wanted to reduce the number of abortions, they'd be petitioning the government for free access to birth control for everyone, not being willfully ignorant about the fact that if fewer unwanted pregnancies are occurring, then fewer abortions will also occur. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. But it's never been about stopping abortion, it's always been about stopping people from having sex.
'He says "what it really shows is that America is truly becoming more pro-life and that more women are wisely choosing to give life to their unborn babies."'
Perhaps he can explain Trojan's report in August of its rocketing sales figures.
"what it really shows is that America is truly becoming more pro-life and that more women are wisely choosing to give life to their unborn babies."
How does this correlate with the increase of atheists in America?
"what it really shows is that America is truly becoming more pro-life"
Right, that's why Akin and Co. all won. Wait, they all lost? Now how could that be...
"It's not surprising that the abortion industry would see a rise in abortions in minority populations because historically they've always targeted minorities for abortion,"
Or it's because minorities have suffered econimc suppression for centuries and are simply poorer, and therefor abortion is a more likely scenario than being able to support your child.
"In fact, Planned Parenthood itself was based on the eugenic principles of Margaret Sanger, who believed that birth control and abortion should be available to reduce the numbers of so-called 'undesirables' in the population."
If that was true, you people would not be able to have children.
And, then I twist this data, like this, and stomp it into this attractive data-shaping mold and PRESTO! I've made a happy Fundie statistic for decorating the mantlepiece. It's a good thing.
Studies show birth control does not correlate with abortions at all.
[citation needed]
Mr. Aden must live in Todd AkinLand, where doctors routinely perform abortions on women who aren't pregnant. In the real world, however, this does not happen. Logic would dictate that if you prevent a pregnancy from even starting there will be no need to abort the nonexistent pregnancy weeks or months down the line, thus an increase in birth control usage would correlate with a decrease in the number of abortions.
Figures show that when Democrats control the Presidency, Congress, or Senate, there is a decrease in abortions in the country. WHen they control more, the more it goes down.
So if you are pro-life, vote democrat.
Stop being dumb, Mr. Aden.
To be fair, Steven H. does have a point about Margaret Sanger. His mistake is that he commits the genetic fallacy: because some of Planned Parenthood's ideas came from Sanger's eugenics, that must mean the organization is evil in the present day.
But Planned Parenthood has abandoned those ideas.
Quit acting like you care about minorities, babies, women, or anyone other than straight, white, rich, fundamentalist men.
Quit trying to deny birth control to women while at the same time trying to make abortion illegal.
Quit calling yourselves "pro-life" when you love war, capital punishment, and a god who murdered all but eight humans.
Quit claiming abortion is about eugenics when you can't stand anyone to think differently than you.
Quit lying to make your point.
Quit trying to turn our country backwards.
Quit it. Now. Or I will continue doing everything I can, donating the Planned Parenthood, voting against any of you misogynist fucks, and speaking out against your bullshit, to make sure that your demonstrably evil agenda is put down like the sick thing that it is.
Birth control does not correlate with abortions? What exactly does that mean?
Abortions are caused by unwanted pregnancies and birth control prevents unwanted pregnancies so a correlation would seem to be quite likely.
I'd like to see the evidence that there is no correlation.
Ktown:
The assumption implicit in the statement about Sanger is that distinguishing the past and present of a particular organization is futile; it's very much like trying to saddle the Democratic Party of today with the racism of the pre-1960s Dixiecrats. I think it also says some unflattering things about the speaker as well -- there's an inherently authoritarian-hierarchical assumption to the statement that because the founder believed something, the supporters of the modern organization must agree, despite the 80-90 years of history that have passed in the meantime.
In other words, in modern contexts, Sanger's eugenics beliefs have about as much relevance to Planned Parenthood in 2012 as the use of slave labor during WWII does to Volkswagen. (Which is why there's a memorial stone for the slaves at the corporate office in Stuttgart -- the modern VW execs are no more Nazi sympathizers than most other Germans.)
Ms Sanger wasn't the only person saying things like that then, was she? Society was much more racist and bigoted before the World War II than after it, ya know. It was also much more racist and bigoted after the WWII than now.
When I saw the name of the writer, I jumped to thinking about W H Auden's Funeral Blues. Mr Auden seems to have been a much nicer fellow than this Aden bloke. I think I'll stay with Mr Auden, and picture John Hannah reading the poem in Four Weddings and a Funeral, his voice breaking at the line "I was wrong".
What? You fundies make your own reality all the time; I'm gonna make my own.
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