Earth was not only the first planet in existence, it was the first object in the universe that had mass.
The earth came first, then the universe was created around it.
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I think i've seen this nick before... No improvement. Sorry to disappoint you, but we aren't, and never have been, the center of the Universe. And neither have you.
There are a lot of facts which are completely contrary to this hypothesis. Namely two examples:
Facts supporting this hypothesis:
I think, carefully weighting this facts, we can conclude safely that the "Earth came first" hypothesis is successfully falsified.
I think we might have stumbled on something even more hillarious here. If the Earth is the first thing to have mass, then you're claiming God does not have mass, but God can do anything so he has to have mass therefore your hypothesis that the earth was the first object in the universe to have mass is falsified. DAMN dude you fundiefucks even fail when using your own tautologies. Never mind science, your argument can't even pass the FAITH basis test, let alone a scientific argument
really?
please explain haha
Um, no, the sun was created first.
In the beginning there was only darkness, water, and the great god Bumba. One day Bumba, in pain from a stomachache, vomited up the sun. The sun dried up some of the water, leaving land. Still in pain, Bumba vomited up the moon, the stars, and then some animals: the leopard, the crocodile, the turtle, and, finally, some men, one of whom, Yoko Lima was white like Bumba.
"Earth was not only the first planet in existence, it was the first object in the universe that had mass."
And where, Oh Wise One, did the mass come from if the stuff it's made up of didn't have any mass?
"The earth came first, then the universe was created around it."
That's not how ... well, anything works.
The Earth is 4.5 billion years old. The universe is nearly 14 billion years old.
Recently, astronomers discovered the earliest galaxy, which formed just 600 million years after the Big Bang.
Your call, AV1611VET.
Oops - from Xotan
"Earth was not only the first planet in existence, it was the first object in the universe that had mass. "
Although I will agree that Earth is a very old planet, other planets do NOT revolve around it.
AV1611VET really meant to say: I was created first, all the other humans were created to revolve around me.
My dear AV1611VET, I hope you know what you are doing? Surely it is excessively dangerous to let such advanced scientific knowledge be known to the simple people of the world at large? Certainly, the sophisticated and highly educated American people are able to deal with such astonishing mind-blowing concepts like the one you put forward, but the rest of Earth's population is only going to be, at best, confused and, at worst, become agitated and unable to function. Please, I beg you, don't post any more dangerous and advanced scientific theories.
The actual sequence saw certain parts of New Jersey formed first. Then the rest of the state was placed around them, to isolate them. Then, when it was safe, the rest of the universe was formed.
AV1611VET is still active?
He's either a complete nutter, or the most dedicated troll in the universe.
Everything science knows about the universe disagrees with you, every measurement we've ever taken disagrees with you, and every expert that's studied cosmology and astronomy for decades disagrees with you. Pretty much the only people that agree with you are other fundamentalists.
@Itachirumon:
If the Earth is the first thing to have mass, then you're claiming God does not have mass, but God can do anything so he has to have mass...
Well, God evidently doesn't have enough mass to get his soul pulled down by gravity...or something.
What scares me the most is that according to their member stats he has 1.5 MILLION posts... How in the hell does anyone post that much?
Also, I still think he is the world's most dedicated troll.
Itachirumon et al.: Try to keep in mind that to such ones, "existence" and "mass" aren't perfect synonyms, but rather, "mass" is a subset of "existence". I think the general conceit is that divine matter can do everything mundane matter can do, and more, all while (a) potentially out of phase, and (b) impervious to entropy. Maybe the mass in question lurks in dimensions 5-10? (I know there are serious physics inquiries about there apparently being ten dimensions, rather than just four...) Basically, I think we're better off trying to shoot down AV1611VET's conceit that the Bible is somehow immune to the rigors of logic (the usual case being the idea that circular logic is all right for the Bible), than leave ourselves open as to whether we're in sub-5 Flatland, for lack of a better way of putting it.
If you're on Earth, and you're right, I'd say the rest of the universe was created as a place for God to escape to. In anticipation of your future creation, fearing your impossible stupidity.
@Pervasive: I don't really know how it works, but there was a way to explode your post-count at Christian Forums without actually having to post a million and a half times, and A1611VET took advantage of it. Maybe someone here knows exactly how it worked and can enlighten us.
"The earth came first, then the universe was created around it. "
Ignoring the massive fail that others have already pointed out better than I could, how could the Earth even exist without first having a universe to fucking put it in , jackass?
Dude, how can God even exist without some form of universe/dimension/realm/environment/etc. to exist in?
Good stuff. Four statements, four complete piles of steaming bullshit.
Try again. Please, we need a regular laugh.
As a God-fearing and slavering fundamental dimwit, I'm ever so grateful to science for providing me with a modern, comfortable life that makes living so easy. With no supporting science, clueless cretins like me and AV1611VET would have died a long time ago. Thank God for science. And, ultimately, praise be to atheists for doing it.
You forgot the "waters above"--you know, that vast sea that separates the earth's atmosphere from the vast reaches of space, allegedly created on the second day, before the earth itself.
You know, the one that, contrary to ancient Hebrew cosmology, doesn't exist.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA pause deep breath
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA pause another deep breath
You fail astronomy forever
even I can tell you that it would be impossible to form a planet if not influenced by something that has gravity to make all this rubble spin around. but of course, that would be heretic. gravity before earth's gravity, nah!
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