My definition of smart:
A child who asks the teacher why the theory of evolution is being taught as though it were fact.
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My definition of brainwashed:
My definition of smart:
My definition of smart:
If you can't even look up the definition of a scientific theory, let alone read up on Evolution itself, don't try to argue against it.
You remind me of that one scene in Alcatraz versus the Scrivener's Bones where Bastille doubts that planes can fly, simply because they don't look like they could.
My definition of an idiot: Someone who never asks a question honestly. The only smart thing about them is their ass.
Someone who teaches children to be such stone-skulled brats shouldn't be left alone with them.
I actually think that could work, he just forgot to type the rest of it. Such as:
My definition of smart:
A child who asks the teacher why the theory of evolution is being taught as though it were fact, understands the answer, and goes on to make observations about accepting statements truth from adults (on both sides of any discussion) without subjecting them to appropriate scrutiny.
No, that's the sign of a student prepped to say stupid things in the classroom. What is even worse is when the teacher asks the kid what he means, and the whole class gets to watch the kid start crying because mommy the home schooler didn't go any further than that (true story).
If the child is truly smart, that child will accept the answer the teacher gives, the answer that explains that Evolutionary Theory is taught as fact because the facts of evolution have been observed and tested, that speciation has been directly observed and documented, that mountains of factual evidence from most every field of science support the facts of evolution.
A smart child will ask why, but will also accept truthful answers.
Good definition, so long as the child is willing to listen to the mountains of evidence any good teacher will be able to provide.
That's actually not a bad question. The answer would hopefully help the child to understand what exactly "theory" and "fact" mean and what the evidence for evolution is.
However, how Philpy worded this question is the WTF part.
So IQ, inventing new computer technology, doing complex quantum physics, and solving global problems is all irrelevant to intelligence, meanwhile, repeating a question you've heard thousands of time that has been debunked thousands of times is the mark of intelligence? In that case, parrots are the most intelligent animals as you can teach them to repeat that question constantly until they die.
You missed the second part of the definition:
"... and comprehends when the teacher proceeds to explain there's a difference between the fact of evolution (that evolution occurs in living populations) and theories of evolution (the tentative, comprehensive and predictive explanatory models of how evolution acts to create bologically diverse living populations)."
it's not just asking the question that demonstrates intelligence--you need to be able to understand the answer to the question as well.
No, that's the definition of stupid . Try again.
I'd feel bad for the child. The teacher's response would be the definition of smart .
My definition of sadly ignorant:
A child that refuses to examine the evidence for evolution, even when presented to them, because their parents told them not to.
Actually that is a valid question. By which I mean, asking how we qnow anything is true is generally a healthy thing to be doing. Asking the question and then blocking your ears to the answer, on the other hand, less smart.
Now hang on guys, it is a good question. To wit the teacher should respond with the evidence, observations, previous research, ongoing research, and examples.
It is important to know why something is fact, but the important thing Philpy should keep in mind is that Evolution is fact. Though I imagine they think that they're some sort of clever anti-conformist.
And, of course, no one has ever asked you to write entries for actual dictionaries. Curious that, eh?
Is this at the introduction of Evolution or after the lesson? Because the evidence will be brought up so "wait" or it has so "weren't you listening?"
It's not like a kid asking the Pastor why he believes in Jesus, that'll get you "because you must". See how science actually answers questions while religion just demands you believe? You should, if you understand "smart".
...then later - much later - that same child wonders why , if he/she's so 'smart', why are they saying 'Would you like fries with that?'
To the one who didn't get 'F's in the past - on the other side of the counter - who got (at worst B+s), who then went to college, graduated, then entered university & earned themselves the degrees that ultimately got them that high-flying (and well-paid) job at the computer company's R&D section. Who went out to get a quick bite to eat whilst the rest of said R&D dept. were close to a breakthrough on their current project: the first laptop -sized Quantum Computer.
Moral: And all because the latter person wasn't a smartarse to the teacher, and trying to be a contrary little cunt, in attempting to 'rebel' against the Dominant Paradigm, knowledge-wise, on Planet Reality.
Now you know why, in the National Curriculum here in the UK, the teaching of Evolution & the Big Bang - even in 'Faith Schools' (certainly if they're to continue to get state funding) - is compulsory ; even homeschooling here has to conform to the law, thus no Kitzmiller vs. Dover required here. And why , o fundies in the US? One word: China .
Smart would be a kid who asks what theory means in the context of science.
Smart would be a kid who upon hearing that theory in the context of science is not the same as theory in everyday use wouldn't forget it two minutes later simply because it would mean they have an even weaker arsenal than they already have in order to attack the theory and fact of evolution.
I agree, it's pretty smart for a child to question things
It's stupid for grown men to invent and ignore evidence as they see fit
My definition of smart:
And when his/her teacher laughs at him/her, you'll have to lie to explain why because you know your beliefs fly in the face of demonstrable evidence.
Hope you don't have kids because you are the source of the problem that continues to plague advancing societies.
Well yes, it's quite obvious that you'd attempt to define smart as something that you think others might categorize as silly. But, in fact, pupils asking their teachers questions born of ignorance is often a sensible thing, if they genuinely want to learn. It's only stupid when the pupils are wearing their ignorance like a badge of honour in a rather smarmy dickhead fashion. Somewhat similar to you Philpy1976, you big dumbo.
Ok, that, questioning creationism, some healthy faith in Eris, a bag of crisps, and you're all ready to go!
~Pope of Discordia
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