Women are important in a man's life only if they're beautiful and charming and keep their femininity and... this business of feminism, for instance. What do these feminists want? What do you want? You say equality. Oh! I don't want to seem rude, but... you're equal in the eyes of the law but not, excuse my saying so, in ability... You've never produced a Michelangelo or a Bach. You've never even produced a great chef. And if you talk to me about opportunity, all I can say is, Are you joking? Have you ever lacked the opportunity to give history a great chef? You've produced nothing great, nothing!... You're schemers, you are evil. All of you.
Emily Dickinson, Jane Austen and Georgia O'Keefe would like a FUCKING WORD WITH YOU. Oh, I'm an artist too BTW, I'd like to introduce your urethra to this finely sharpened pencil FUCKTARD.
Ah, so women as a fucking mate because you love eachother is trivial and pointless then?
Fuck you asshole, get off our planet
All I can picture now is some 5 year old brat shouting, "Girls have cooties! Girls have cooties!"
He might change his mind once he gets laid.
A woman produced your sorry ass, didn't she? Ungrateful bastard.
Oh, and Julia Child for the win, you poorly informed misogynist asswipe.
"You've never produced a Michelangelo or a Bach."
Wow. Like any female born with talents comparable to those two would have been in an environment where they would have been encouraged to flourish.
"And if you talk to me about opportunity, all I can say is, Are you joking? Have you ever lacked the opportunity to give history a great chef?"
Considering that women have only recently been permitted outside of the kitchen circa WWII, I will say YES!!1!! As for the rest: even stupider.
Looking at it from a slightly different angle, every Michelangelo, Bach, great chef and every other talented artist was produced by a woman... They're the ultimate artists.
Oh, please. Never produced a great chef? The vast majority of men, in all cultures, can name at least one dish that their mother made better than anyone else.
And all he can produce is hatred and ignorance, too.
Well, I will admit that Rachael Ray leaves something to be desired for. But a female Bach or Michaelangelo? It isnt good form to copy another artists style if you want to be remembered for a long time. Lets also remember the sexist times that these artists lived in.
Let us also not forget that Athena was one of the most beloved classical goddesses of her time, being a goddess of war AND art (among other cephalic spheres of influence).
I will let the rest of the group comment on good historical names and examples, just wanted to point that little gem out.
I thought Ares was the God of War?
Of course I also thought he lost the title when Kratos killed him with a giant sword, so what do I know?
Grandma Moses. Beverly Sills (performer) the Wilson sisters (Heart, composers and performers). Julia Child.
That took all of 3 seconds. I could fill a page in 3 minutes without even starting on the accomplishments of women in virtually every field of human endeavor outside art, music, and food.
i think the following ladies would like a word with in your shell like......
catherine of sienna
Joan of Arc
the Bronte sisters
need i continue.........
I hate to break this to you, but Mother Theresa was an evil witch who tortured people to get closer to God.
Not the best example of great women, but of course there are many.
You've never produced a Michelangelo or a Bach.
For most of human history, women have never been allowed to; and that prohibition is an implicit recognition of their capacity to do so.
There are great Chefs in kitchens, in homes all over the world.. Then there are well known chefs such as Madhi Jafferies, Angela Hartnett (Trained by Gordan Ramsey and has a Michalin Star), The River Cafe is a famous resturant in London with owned by two female Michelin Star winning chefs...Then there is Nigella Lawson, Lesley Waters, Sophie Gregson... Female artists.. Frida Kahlo, Georgia O'Keefe .. want to talk about authors?
The greeks had two gods of war. Athena was the goddess of wisdom in battle, arts, and wisdom in general.
Ares was the god of fury in combat (a berserker, in fact, if not by name) and kind of a joke amongst the greeks. In fact, if you have the courage ot read the Illyad, you will see that Ares is thwarted at every turn by any god that has a little more brains than he has.
Of course, the Romans being stupid, they glorified Mars (Ares) and totally forgot Minerva, their version of Athena, making her a minor goddess.
Joan of Arc
Louisa May Alcott
Queen Elizabeth I
Catherine the Great
That's just off the top of my head.
Oh, and for a chef? How 'bout Paula Deen? Though by the way, how absurdly random is it that this guy's using chefdom as a mark of gender superiority?
"Women are important in a man's life only if they're beautiful and charming and keep their femininity"
Hmmm, I'd rather have a girl who has a voracious sexual appetite, is a bit of a pothead, and is easy to get along with.
/You've never produced a Michelangelo/
Artemisia Gentileschi called. She wants you to know that she ranks you right down there with the disgusting, miserable piece of pond scum who raped her and the colossal examples of stupidity and misogyny who acquitted him. While she had her artistic revenge on them by painting the masterpiece of Judith beheading Holofernes, she will also grant you a painting, albeit one that is ten times more gruesome than the original, includes your intestines being ripped out from your body, and that is broadcast across the world for all to see what a pathetic excuse for a human being you are.
Given that large parts of the world still refuse to educate its women and treats them merely as 'walking wombs', I'd say women on the whole are doing a bloody great job!
Some ladies are *not* given opportunities, Mohammad, and that's down to misogynist twits like you.
Is he talking about women?
Joan of Arc
Emily Dicinson (since he seems to be stuck on the arts)
If you want something beautiful, charming and feminine, buy a vase.
Hmm...Hatshepsut and Queen Elizabeth were able to, y'know, hold on to their countries. Yeah, going with them here, Pahlavi.
(Also, to other members of FSTDT if you didn't click the link or didn't figure it out yet: Not some random Muslim here. Actually, someone who was known for trying to Westernize his country before it wanted it. That whole Iranian Revolution thing? Yeah, it wouldn't have turned half as Islamic if it wasn't fighting an un-Islamic person in the first place. Actually, I'd probably disqualify this on the grounds that the only thing he was fundamentalist about was his own authoritarian rule, but since everyone's been going around saying "Not all fundies are religious" I'll have to let a self-fundy stand.)
well im very sorry we live in a MALE run world. becoz of MEN women never GOT the chance to prove how good we were. Wat about cleopatra, jean of arc, coco chanel, elisabeth even mar magdalen? hmm? wat about all the other countless women, marie curie, jane austen, beatrix potter? wat about THEM?
Marie Curry,Julia Child,Cleopatra,
Joan of Arc,Rebecca Clarke,Amelia Earhart,Deborah Sampson and Emily Dickenson-to name a few.I'm highly doubtful you've ever produced a Michelangelo or Back much less a coherent sentence.Die in a fire sexist scum fuck.
Let me mention a few ladies, a few French ladies, to be exact:
Isabella, the Duchess of Lorraine: After her husband was defeated and captured during the Battle of Bulgneville, Isabella led an army to rescue him and took control of his kingdoms while he was in prison.
Renee Bordereau: basically the Joan of Arc of the French Revolution (or rather, Counter-Revolution). Having disguised herself as a man, she fought more than two hundred battles and liberated fifty priests from prison.
Marie Marvingt: otherwise known as the "Fiancee of Danger." Not only was she a heavily decorated athlete, but she was a combat pilot for bombing missions during both World Wars, she created the air ambulance, she invented metal skis for sand during the time she spent in Algeria, and she served in the Red Cross.
Virginie Guyot: a fighter pilot of the Armée de l'Air who became the first woman in the world to command a precision aerobatic demonstration team when she was appointed leader of the Patrouille de France, which is one of the world's oldest and most prestigious demonstration teams. She has been engaged in operations in Chad, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan and now plans to join the Air Force in France.
In. Your. Face.
If you risk getting burned at the stake, or getting stoned to death, for wanting to run your own life, you don't push that hard for showing yourself to be a genius.
There is the "lack of opportunity" you were looking for, Bubba. The patriarchy killed off every promising woman it could find, for hundreds and hundreds of years.
My List of Badass Historical/Mythological Women:
Hera (as much of a bitch as she was, I can't blame her)
Mohammad's first wife (he was her employee before they married)
Catherine the Great
Olympias, Alexander the Great's mum
Every woman martyr in Christian tradition
Susan B. Anthony
Dr. Mae Jemison
Bonny (as in 'and Clyde')
Aileen Wuornos (serial killer, but still. I saw Erzbet Bathory higher up the comments)
And those are all I can list off the top of my head.
My dear Mr. Pahlavi, have you ever flown with a commercial passenger aircraft, and have you arrived at your destination safely, together with your luggage? Isn't this a great achievement of our modern society? In former times, it took weeks or even months for a journey. Nowadays, it is possible to reach every major city in the world in a few hours.
If you ever visited a certain airport in Europe, then you owe a lot to my wife. She is responsible for the airport logistics at one of the major airports in the world. And she is doing a great job.
You now better apologize for your rude insult, and say a big "thank you!" to my wife. And you better start to be grateful that feminism made it possible that a highly intelligent woman has the opportunity to put her talents to good use instead of wasting her brains by staying at home.
A woman did produce a Michaelangelo, and another woman did produce a Bach; their mothers, stupid.
What have YOU produced that is of benefit for all mankind, Mohammad?
First: I echo everyone who points out the obvious - that every great person in history had a mother.
Second: We are all reading this on computers. Guess who the first computer programmer was?
August Ada King, Countless of Lovelace. She wrote computer programs before there were computers.
Pahlavi is wrong.
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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