William Luther Pierce #crackpot #elitist #psycho #racist #wingnut en.wikipedia.org

[From the plot summary of William Luther Pierce’s 1978 novel The Turner Diaries, which is still very relevant today, as it continues to serve as a kind of bible for white supremacists. - Percy]

The Organization raids the houses of all individuals who have been reported to be race traitors in some way (such as judges, professors, lawyers, politicians, clergy, journalists, entertainers, etc.), and white people who defiled their race by living with or being married to non-whites. It drags these individuals from their homes and publicly hangs them in the streets in Los Angeles in an event which comes to be known as the "Day of the Rope" (August 1, 1993). Most of these public executions are filmed for propaganda purposes. The Organization has little use for most white "mainstream" Americans. Those on the left are seen as dupes or willing agents of the Jews, while conservatives and libertarians are regarded as mere businessmen out for themselves or misguided fools, because, the Organization states, the Jews "took over according to the Constitution, fair and square." Turner and his comrades save their special contempt for the ordinary people, who are seen to care about nothing beyond being kept comfortable and entertained. Once daily life is completely disrupted by the nuclear war it instigated, the Organization opens compounds where food and shelter are available - but those seeking admittance are given a bayonet and told to come back with "the freshly cut head of a non-white person"; those unable or unwilling to pay such an "admittance price" are left to starve, as their death would "improve the race".

William Luther Pierce #crackpot #psycho #racist #wingnut en.wikipedia.org

[Regarding the plot of William Luther Pierce’s 1978 novel The Turner Diaries, which is still very relevant today, as it serves as a kind of bible for white supremacists. - Percy]

The epilogue summarizes how the Organization went on to conquer the rest of the world and how all non-white races were eliminated. Africa was invaded; all of its black inhabitants were killed. Puerto Ricans (described as a "repulsive mongrel race") were killed and Puerto Rico was recolonized. After China attempts to invade European Russia, the Organization attacks its with nuclear, chemical, radiological and biological weapons which render the entire continent of Asia uninhabitable and rife with "mutants". In the United States, the last remaining non-whites are hunted down, along with all of the individuals who are involved in organized crime (such as the Mafia).

One of the last steps in the Organization's victory is its truce with the remainder of the American military's generals, who agree to surrender if the former swears not to harm them or their immediate families. The Organization gladly accepts. The epilogue concludes with the statement that "just 110 years after the birth of the 'Great One', the dream of a white world finally became a certainty... and the Order would spread its wise and benevolent rule over the earth for all time to come."

Unknown racist #racist #pratt en.wikipedia.org

(Submitter’s note: This is an excerpt from a letter written in response to Jane Elliott, the teacher who first did the Blue Eye/Brown Eye experiment to teach her white students about discrimination, following her appearance on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson following a newspaper report of the results of this experiment. A little more detail exists on the Wikipedia page, as well as quite a bit more. I’ve found no source on the author’s name.)

How dare you try this cruel experiment out on white children? Black children grow up accustomed to such behavior, but white children, there's no way they could possibly understand it. It's cruel to white children and will cause them great psychological damage. #racist en.wikipedia.org

(They’re referring to the camps China is putting Uyghurs in)

These are clearly not "concentration camps"; and to call them such is an insult to the Jews who were put in Nazi concentration camps and exterminated. It is not clear that they are re-education camps either, since the Uighurs are probably not being re-educated, as they really do lack education in the first place. The simple term of education camp may be the most accurate. It must be remembered that the genetic ancestors of these people had the muslim religion forced upon them in the first place on pain of death and total destruction.

The religion is also such that these people cannot leave, because any muslim leaving the religion incur the penalty of being killed by other muslims. The world and the UN should make it a priority that any muslim should be free to leave this religion without the fear of being killed by other muslims, and to protect this right. At least the Chinese are doing something to set these people free, what is the rest of the world doing to help these backward people?

David Wolfe #crackpot #quack #ufo en.wikipedia.org

Wolfe has been criticized for promoting pseudoscience.[26][27] His popularity on social media networks such as Facebook has led to backlash articles from critics, who accuse him of profiting from pseudoscience and promoting potentially harmful subjects, such as anti-vaccination.[28]

• He promotes a diet based on raw plants,[22][29] stating that this has a "detoxification" effect, while no scientific basis for this sort of "detoxification" has been noted.[26][30]
• He advocates that people with cancer take dietary supplements instead of getting medical treatment, which he describes as “largely a fraud.”[31]
• He believes that "chemtrails" exist and are harmful to people and animals.[22][32] There is no evidence of the existence of "chemtrails", and multiple scientific agencies have explained that such clouds are merely common contrails.[33]
• He has considered cocoa to be one of several "superfoods",[25][34] a marketing term with no clear definition and not in widespread use by dieticians and nutrition scientists.[35]
• He says that deer antler spray is "levitational" and an "androgenic force", which he promotes and sells.[29][36]
• He claims that mushrooms have an "advanced intelligence and consciousness". He has stated that mushroom spores can "levitate off the planet" and believes they are trying to "get to the center of the sun".[37] He has stated that mushroom spores originally came from "distant planets" and were "carried by cosmic winds or meteors into the Earth's atmosphere", stating "the preliminary work develops as the mushroom mycelium sets itself up to network and nourish multi-celled carbohydrate-forming organisms".[38] He has also stated that the mushrooms that grow in trees are "medicinal mushrooms".[39]
• He believes vaccines are dangerous and may not work.[22][40][41]
• He believes that the Earth is flat and that gravity is a hoax,[42][43][44] ideas that are considered to be pseudoscientific and are not compatible with the physical evidence of the Earth, which is spheroidal in shape.[45]

LIVIPOO #sexist en.wikipedia.org

Definition of Sexism

Alright people, yo7u all bang on about people being sexist but have you seen the defanition of sexism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats right the DEFINITION IS SEXIST. Defanitipon of sexist: prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex. It isn´t just women. How do you think men feel. Life is now not fair and this needs to change #conspiracy en.wikipedia.org

'''Isn't it just ironic how the US made a plan to invade Afghanistan for their own benefits by just making a dramatic scene? 9/11 was just a drama set up by the US so that they have a reason to invade Afghanistan just like the British annexed Sindh (province in later-made Pakistan) during British Raj in India by provoking the Amirs in order to restore their pride which they lost in Afghanistan.

The Taliban government they say of is very polite and whom are bonded to their words and faith are just blasphemed by the US who made a cruel portrait out of them.But guess what? Taliban freedom fighters will never bend to their knees no matter how much you try and would never accept that Pro-American President.

I'll quote from Alexander the Great

"Pashtuns, a nation which will take nations to barely suppress them" and to his mother

"I am in the land of brave people who are up for anything to protect their culture,religion and families"'''

unsigned #racist en.wikipedia.org

(In the talk page of the article "White genocide conspiracy theory")

Is it a "conspiracy" if it is not a secret?

Throughout the years many anti-White activists have openly said that the goal of their activism to get more non-Whites into White majority countries, integrating White communities and promoting interracial breeding to Whites is to eliminate the White race from existence. Basically they want every White majority population in the world to become some sort of mocha brown population and White people to no longer exit. It's been out in the open, completely admitted and even championed as some sort of great advancement in human civilisation.

The definition of a "conspiracy" is a secret plan...but the program to eliminate the White race from existence has been anything but secret. It's promoters have been shouting from the hills about how wonderful it will be when there are no more White people on Earth. It in no way meets the definition of a "conspiracy" when it has been so completely out in the open.

Expectant of Light #racist en.wikipedia.org

Btw, Hijiri88 is clearly pushing his scaremongering against me by stating ridiculous opinions. "There are people out there in the real world who would be shocked and appalled if they saw English Wikipedia call Jews and Zionists "powerful interests" and "dominant interests."

Wow! What does that mean? You mean Jews or Zionists have no interest or political influence? Or Isreal lobby doesn't exist? Or that Jewish magnates have no economic clout? Or that they don't at least sometime use it for political advocacy? Or there's no such a thing as ADL "Stalinist thought police organization" to use Chomskey's description? Sure people can keep me blocked for not buying into Hijiri's Zionist world of political correctness.

Strivingsoul #racist en.wikipedia.org

(This fundie is talking about David Duke)

He claims that every people have a right to preserve their heritage. And that multi-culturalism leads to ethnic tension and conflict and destruction of distinct cultural traits of each people. We may not agree with him but he's making a compelling case for his view, and this is unfair to rush to frame it as racism simply because he is against massive aggressive immigration into Europe and America. He also cites Jewish sources which show how multi-culturalism was promoted by Jewish organizations in order to weaken the Christian culture of America. On a related topic, here is one of the Jewish sources he directly quotes that you can see for yourself.

The Jewish author admits and brags about their role in the notorious porn-industry and its dark anti-Christian goals: Jewish involvement in porn, by this argument, is the result of an atavistic hatred of Christian authority: they are trying to weaken the dominant culture in America by moral subversion. (This is really interesting for me, since this is a pattern I have myself witnessed in another case. Israeli Prime Minister Netanhayu had also advocated regime change in Iran back in 2002 through cultural and moral subversion -- by advocating beaming hedonist and degenerate Hollywood productions by a gay Jewish director into Iran in order to corrupt Iranian youths until they revolt against their Islamic government). Just as evident in this example, his book primarily draws from Jewish sources to present his thesis.

Most of the book content are NOT his opinions but just quotes after quotes! He is not also claiming there's a crazy conspiracy theory but that Jews have an enormous influence over US media and politics and therefore deeply influence the US culture and politics. And again he backs up his claim by providing testimony from Jews themselves. Here is one of the testimonies he quotes from a Jewish author: I have never been so upset by a poll in my life. Only 22% of Americans now believe "the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews," down from nearly 50% in 1964. The Anti-Defamation League, which released the poll results last month, sees in these numbers a victory against stereotyping. Actually, it just shows how dumb America has gotten. Jews totally run Hollywood. So we can probably suggest that this guy talking about "total control of Hollywood by Jews" is a self-hating anti-Semitic Jew!!

And I'll also be happy if you show me a Duke's recent statement that says Whites are superior to non-whites. There could've been such statements coming from him during his youth where he held more radical views, but I've not seen any statement along that vein in those of his works or articles over the last two decades that I have studied. #racist en.wikipedia.org

(This is a banned editor moaning about his racist edits to articles being reverted)

One of the Wikipedia sayanim is heard from! Didn't take you very long.

Unconstructive? Uninformative? Because it tells the truth about who is commiting these crimes? Without resorting to weasel words, per Wikipedia guidelines. Can't have that now, can we? Try looking at the FBI violent crime statistics.

Or continue to believe that whites are avoiding one shopping mall after another because they are racists who fear "diversity" and not the crimes committed by this diverse population.

Lightbringer #conspiracy en.wikipedia.org

(In the talk page of the article "Freemasonry")

The Direction this page is heading under Masonic Editors

What is the point *IN YOUR MINDS* of having the Wikipedi entry be an exact mirror of hundreds of other Masonic websites? Don't you Masonic "lights" think people will just take one look at it, realize it is a duplicate of what they have seen elsewhere and trundle on off to say, the Catholic Encyclopedia entry on Freemasonry, or some other non-masonic website?

Masonry still retains among its emblems one of a woman weeping over a broken column, holding in her hand a branch of acacia, myrtle, or tamarisk, while Time, we are told, stands behind her combing out the ringlets of her hair. We need not repeat the vapid and trivial explanation... given, of this representation of Isis, weeping at Byblos, over the column torn from the palace of the King, that contained the body of Osiris, while Horus, the God of Time, pours ambrosia on her hair.

Illustrious Albert Pike 33°
Morals and Dogma, page 379

[Spinboy: I don't understand, Lightbringer, why you can't seem to come to a consensus with the other editors of this article on what should and shouldn't be included. They can seem to come to a consensus, yet you somehow are incapable of this.]

You don't seem to understand why I can't come to consensus with the Pro-Masonry Propagandist 'consensus's' deletion of any information they dislike? Go figure Jimmy.

CSaguaro #fundie en.wikipedia.org

(This quote is about changing the Wikipedia article of Aesthetic Realism -- a obscure NY-based cult that was famous in the 70's/80's for claiming they could cure homosexuality. MichaelBluejay is a well-known critic of the cult.)

The version MichaelBluejay posted is derisive and definitely POV. Sources include his own website, as well as anonymous comments on other websites. Entirely omitted is the philosophic basis of how Aesthetic Realism sees this subject in favor of a cartoonish version. From the beginning Aesthetic Realism is presented as out for publicity, “riding the buzz”.

The truth is that the only reason Aesthetic Realism and Eli Siegel dealt with the subject at all is because men, like myself once, did not like themselves for being homosexual and were looking for a way to change—and we found it.

Sure some men decided that Aesthetic Realism wasn’t for them and they preferred to live a gay lifestyle which, of course, is their right. But you would never know from this version that there are men who have lived meaningful, fulfilled heterosexual lives, including marriage and children, for 10, 20, 30+ years. The controversy and opposition can be presented, but it has to be in an evenhanded way.

Bobby fletcher #conspiracy en.wikipedia.org

(He's talking about the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre)

I agree with QatarStarsLeague, this article is very biased:

- There's no mentioning of the US embassy wire released by Wikileaks that supports the Chinese government's account of events.

- There's an inflamatory photo of machine guns, but where are the photos of violent rioters attacking unarmed soldiers and charred bodies of dead soldiers?

- Right, show a photo of machine gun, but does not mention declassified NSA intel stating the troops sent to restore order and clear the square were initially unarmed and were attacked by violent rioters (see photos above).

Bias bais bais, very sad to see wikipedia being exploited like this to perpetuate propaganda. Facts stated above (wikileak wires, declassified NSA intel, public domain photo from China with no copyright restriction in US) came from Google and can be publically verifed.

CSaguaro #fundie en.wikipedia.org

I changed from homosexuality through Aesthetic Realism and I know that it has always been for justice and full civil rights for all people, including homosexuals. If, for example, men and women have the right to change their sex (and they should have that right), shouldn't there also be the right to change one's sexual preference, if that is what a person wants?

Sydney Bufford #fundie en.wikipedia.org

As a man who changed from homosexuality through my study of Aesthetic Realism and someone new to this talk page, I am perplexed by the objection to the simple, clear, entirely grammatical phrase, "changed from homosexuality."

To quote one source, Websters Dictionary, the first definition of the intransitive verb "change" is "to become different." This describes percisely what occurred in my life. I was homosexual; I became heterosexual. If this isn't appropriate language and readily understandable to the vast majority of English speaking people over the age of (conservatively) 12, I don't know what is.

Dominator1453 #fundie en.wikipedia.org

(The editor was blocked for this rant.)

Hold your horses cowboy! You need to issue a warning first. Plus, you cannot judge me on my convictions on the lie called the "Armenian Genocide" and that they were only massacres. You don't see me vandalising articles, do you? If you ask me, you are the partial and biased one who interferes in matters concerning scholars and historians. You need to remove the ban immediately.

HenryVIIIyes #conspiracy en.wikipedia.org

There must be some discussion of the possibility that Hamlet is based on the life of Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford. I realize the orthodox scholars hold on Wikipedia, and any discussion of the authorship question is brutally suppressed.

But many prominent people now believe the traditional story is wrong. A consensus for Edward de Vere as the true author seems to have arisen among the anti-Stratfordians. So it seems reasonable to give some discussion of Hamlet in light of Edward de Vere. To do so would be folly. The Oxfordian point of view is not a fringe theory.

Danielvincentkelley #conspiracy en.wikipedia.org

[Re. smart meters]

WTF is this nonsense!? RADIATION is OBVIOUSLY NOT GOOD. There is no "safe" level of radiation. Tiny radiation can damage DNA and cause cancer. These meters produce POWERFUL radio waves aka "RADIATION". If it weren't bade enough that these meters are producing powerful radiation, more and more sources of radiation have crept into the landscape on which this society lives, from cell phones to wireless internet and now Fukushima nuke meltdown has been raging and spewing radioactive material for a whole YEAR. A 1 whole year melt down of a nuclear power plant, that has gone China syndrome and is threatening to cause blackhole Earth. Added on top of all that radiation, powerful radio transmitters FORCED into everybody's homes, that can be hacked from external command EASILY, is OBVIOUSLY NOT GOOD, not right, it's CRIMINAL. While there is NO SAFE LEVEL of radiation, EVERY BIT of RADIATION is BAD for human health, the more and more radiation you're exposed to, the more surely you will get cancer and die. Is everybody who updates and maintains fkn corporate wikipedia disinfo a fkn traitorous shill? I guess so.

1990'sguy #fundie en.wikipedia.org

I have edited Wikipedia for a while, and I know for a fact that there are a lot of inaccuracies and problems on it, whether it is vandalism, inaccurate material, POV bias, or out-of-date material. I and many other editors have tried our best to eliminate all of these, but I know that no matter what we do, these problems will remain. I also know that Wikipedia, ultimately, is temporary. Sometime — I don't know when, and don't ask me any details because I cannot know them — Wikipedia will cease to exist. So, all our editing will come to naught, at least it seems.

But I also know that God's Word, the Bible, is the opposite of Wikipedia, at least in this respect. As unpopular it is to believe this in our present culture, I know that the Bible contains absolutely no errors or mistakes — regardless of what topic or genre it has to do with. I also know that God and His Word will remain forever, as the verse here clearly states.

We humans always try to achieve greatness and glory, and I can see that throughout history. There is the Tower of Babel, the Neo-Assyrian Empire, the Neo-Babylonian Empire, Alexander the Great's empire, the Roman Empire, the British Empire, Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, and I can name countless others. There have been many leaders who have tried to achieve greatness — Alexander the Great, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Gaddafi, and many, many more — and ultimately failed.

My point in all this is that all of these were temporary and didn't last, but God, who created all things and controls all history, will remain forever. Whose side will you be on?

Trish #fundie en.wikipedia.org

For a change of pace perhaps the readers of this might like some facts. My name is Tristie Johnson and I am Lauren Stratford's - niece. First you need to know that when Rose Willson came of age - she changed here name from Rose Grabowski to Rose Grey. This was - because she was ashamed of her Polish heritage. When she got married her name changed again to Rose Willson. When Lauren - ran away from home she went to live with her father in California. - I do not understand why Cornerstone magazine has not asked to interview me since I too was horribly abused by my grandmother and - both my parents. I have the restraning order I was granted by the judge against Rose Willson and Willow Teeter after they went to - a summer camp where my son was at and tried to kidnap him. - I have the letter from the Summer Camp apolgizing for allowing them to enter the camp, they said my mother verbally - abused the camp directer until she gave in. - Although I did not meet my aunt until after the restraining order was granted we had a lot of things in common, since I was forced to spend a lot of time with my abusive grandmother, who was Lauren's adopted mother and experienced some of the same horrors. When my parents found out about the book they returned to the United States, (they had been in Israel, primarly helping the Palestinians.) They began an urgent campain to discredit Lauren. Cornerstone magazine only interviewed a few members of my family but the family did their best to generate as many lies as possible about my aunt. Why? - My grandmother was very rich, so she had plenty of money to spend in order to cover up the truth. Usually if you ask a person if they horribly abused a child, especially arranging sexual abuse they are bound to deny it. Especially since so many things that happened were against the law. - During the second world war the United States had our own - Holocaust. We not only put the Japanese into the camps, but Americans, Italians, and Germans as well. Most likely Lauren - was born when her parents were in the camps. They were fashioned - after the concentration camps in Germany, some were even set in - places that looked like Germany. I remember as a child long after the war, being strapped to a chair so I could not move and being forced to view the horrible things that happened in a Nazi German camp and was drugged so I would hallucinate while being poked with needles and other sharp things so it felt like I was in that camp. If you have ever been to Disney Land you can understand how detailed special effects can be. - Shortly after my parents came home my aunt was pushed down a large flight of cement stairs and was almost killed. Crime Victems - compensation paid for her counseling after the accident. When we - met she was quite poor but throughout the rest of her life we were close. I attended her memorial service and helped people clean out her apartment afterwards. I miss my aunt. Satans's - Underground is a true story. The name change to Lauren Stratford and the omission of my mother in the book were done out of consideration not to embarrass my mother. It's ridiculous after - all this time to be making up stories against my aunt

STSC #fundie en.wikipedia.org

Not every cult is harmful. Falun Gong was considered as posing a danger to Chinese society and therefore must be eliminated from China; such process should not be described as "persecution" as if the elimination is undesirable. Wikipedia is neutral and should not make judgement on the Chinese internal policy for the good of its society.

LoreMariano #fundie en.wikipedia.org

(This fundie is a member of a obscure NY-based cult that was famous in the 90's for claiming they could cure gay men of homosexuality.)

There is nothing being whitewashed here. The subject of homosexuality has not been presented at the Aesthetic Realism Foundation in over 20 years. There are men who have changed from homosexuality through the study of Aesthetic Realism who deserve to live their lives as they have chosen, just as gay men deserve to live their lives as they choose. As has been said many times, Aesthetic Realism has always been in favor of equal civil rights for gay men and women. #fundie en.wikipedia.org

Given that the grandfather was an Irish Catholic, he certainly had no loyalty to the UK, and his ilk was often wont to abandon their families to the British Welfate State, for which they left the 26 counties to begin with, albeit usually '''after WWII''', not during.

Bjornar #fundie en.wikipedia.org

(This fundie is a member of the KFA, a pro-North Korea group)

The people of the DPRK assign great social importance to the three generals from Mount Paektu, Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il and Kim Jong Suk. It was through these great personalities that Korea was liberated from imperial occupation. Had it not been for the formation of Juche-Korea, the whole of the Korean peninsula would still be in the grip of foreign powers, not in the interest of the Korean people.

Daily life inside the DPRK is focused on family, work and social education. There is no need for anything else to make the life of the ordinary worker happy. If foreign television was introduced to DPRK society without any guidance, people would be very confused and could be lead to think, by seeing nice cars, people with fancy clothes, and expensive things, that the west has more to offer and that living in a capitalist society is better than living in a socialist country.

True to the ideal of not polluting the people with media content, the authorities of DPRK broadcasting has correctly made the wise decision of not offering any content from outside sources. This means that broadcasting is only adapted for Korean needs, discarding everything that is counter-society or counter-productive or against the teachings of our leaders.

My individual opinion is that some content from western programming should be showed on a regular basic, teaching people about the reality of capitalist societies, so people can appreciate how safe the DPRK society is from crime, poverty, unemployment, expensive housing, and other social problems that plague the west. Such programming would have to be guided and adapted to a DPRK audience an narrated in Korean, and not displace Korean culture (i.e. not take much more than 1% of programming time).

Strivingsoul #racist en.wikipedia.org

"Known for its virulent anti-Semitism" Yes! Dare to criticize Zionist genocidal policies or point out things like atheist Jewish pornographers' self-declared agenda of weakening Christianity by moral subversion, or US unconditional support for Israel occupational apartheid and the be branded as "anti-Semite" by ADL's Stalinist thought policing, to the point of even making the absurd claim of "Self-hating" Jew for decent Jews who point out the same injustices by their fellow tribesmen!

And my evidences prove that there are perfectly legitimate grounds in David Duke's or (others', for that matter,) criticism of extremist, anti-Muslim, anti-Christian elements with Jewish background, unless you're advocating the view that once someone happens to come from a Jewish background, he or she somehow miraculously becomes infallible and should not be criticized for anything wrong!

Strivingsoul #racist en.wikipedia.org

Media are meant to be for propaganda! Don't make any mistake! There's no objective, free media in the entire planet! All media sources are influenced by political or financial interests/prejudices/preferences of the owners. So there's no reason to single out one out of many.

But as for Press TV, I think it provides a vital and unique perspective of the events for Islamic Republic of Iran is pretty much the only government in the world that is more or less independent from tyrannical corporate world order -- and that's exactly the reason why it is target of vehement Western/Saudi propaganda which you also seem to be blindly parroting here.

Press TV giving voice to critics of Jewish power elite or the Zionist state has nothing to do with racism, unless you believe in Zionist political narrative for which your Zionist cliche claim of "Jews being a minority" is such a dead give-away. True, jews are ''demographically'' a minority but they are virtually ''half of the power structure!'' Read Jewish Supremacism by David Duke to know why! But hold your horses! You don't have to remind that the author has been a Klansman three decades ago!

Absolute Authoritarian Award

If you want a vision of RGloucester's ideal future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.

RGloucester #fundie en.wikipedia.org

It is unacceptable to be so self-important. Our opinions are irrelevant. Only the ruling class may make such determinations. You must remain subjugated to the law, to the government, and to the collective. Where would it all end, if people thought they could challenge government and rule of law? No one has any right to rally against the law.

The law is the law, and must be adhered to. You have no rights, not one. What is willed by God will come to pass, whether one likes it or not. He views such arrogance with disdain. Let those with station do what they are to do, and those without do what they are to do. Accept your lot, as people have done for centuries.

JonErber #conspiracy en.wikipedia.org

I agree. This article is an outrage. Dr Peter Duesberg is not a mass murderer who killed millions of Africans and other AIDS patients. He is not an AIDS denialist. He denies HIV virus is the sole cause of the disease. Unlike other scientists he is not a dogmatist in believing that hiv virus theory has been proven. He does not take money from the drug companies to say hiv virus is the cause of AIDS.

I have worked with AIDS patients most of whom were impoverished intravenous drug abusers. The whole hiv causes AIDS bull is at best a dubious theory and at worst a conspiracy to earn profits for the health care industry and drug comapnies. The hiv test is a fraud since it only is evidence that you have antibodies to the virus. Not that you are "infected". Wikipedia hates anyone in alternative medici who disagrees with the absolutism of orthodox medicine #fundie en.wikipedia.org

I speak this from personal experience: I had suffered from a disease called Ankylosing Spondylitis. It had affected my hip joints making it difficult to move them. One day, while in a church service, I was healed. It was an experience that I felt as much as believed.

I was able to walk out the church without crutches. An hour later, after being plagued by many thoughts and doubts, I was again unable to walk without crutches. So I know from experience that a man can receive healing and then lose it when his faith fails.

Was there medical proof of my healing? No. But there was visible proof - my walking.

Neotarf #fundie en.wikipedia.org

After pursuing the meaning of this through the internet for better than an hour, I have come up with this explanation. Some individuals, who Arnold Schwarzenegger might term as "lady-boys", and who have male chromosomes and male genitals, want to use female toilets. Also women's sleeping areas and women's prisons. The reason for this is that they believe gender is social. They say anyone who does not agree with them is trying to deprive them of their rights, and is filled with "hate and exclusion".

They loathe women almost as much as they loathe their own bodies, and as a result of believing they have become women, they spend a lot of time on "men's rights" forums trying to enforce strict gender roles and telling women how to act as women. I'm sure I have missed some nuance of this, and that someone will come by and set me straight on some of the detail, but this is definitely a thing. Anyone who resists strict gender roles is deemed a "terf", as in "kill terfs", which according to the New Yorker article, has become a common internet threat.

The two terms mentioned by the OP as being "widely recognized slurs" are no such thing, but we can certainly add all of these terms to those that do not belong on the talk pages of Wikipedia. That this term was used by an IP, and not a signed-in user, kind of speaks for itself.

Jokestress #fundie en.wikipedia.org

Perhaps it's not clear, but I am saying the non-pedophilic sexual interest in prepubescents is poorly covered here and sitewide. I am not talking about sexual abuse or other acts. I am talking about a larger phenomenon and a term for part of that phenomenon (preferential interest/orientation). This is a big problem, because a lot of people are reading this article, and I believe many are not getting correct information because of how this is covered.

Some older teen or adult who gets tingly thinking about prepubescent children or in response to actual children or media depicting children is not necessarily a pedophile and is not necessarily classifiable as mentally ill. That's not clear at all from this article. We need to make all that very clear for lay readers. The question about history is also important, as historical aspects of this phenomenon have been systematically censored here.

For instance, one significant historical view is that pedophilia is an extreme version of normal masculine sexuality. The question about history got me thinking maybe it's time to revisit this and try to rectify the problem.

Stevertigo #conspiracy en.wikipedia.org

BitCoin is a digital currency with hidden factors, touted as a payment system, originally housed by England in its Fort Terror complex, for sake of delivering it to the world as a kind of pseudocurrency, or pyramid/ponzi scheme, which would gain in popularity amongst young people who idealize openness in the markets, but then would become ensnared if they invested largely, by virtue of buying into a aristocrat-run crime-syndicate forted institution, insistent on resisting the "work Dollar" the common term for the World Bank "credito," (see the Grateful Dead's "Box of Rain") as designed by the Vatican to be an egalitarian way of assessing work value.

BitCoin became solvent when Barack Obama, as a favor to Joseph Biden, transformed 58,000,000 dollars of BitCoin currency through the Bank of Philadelphia, which then concealed the log of that transaction beneath the bank of PNC, "under China" Bank PNC fault, establishing legitimacy through a kind of orchestrated corruption and fraud at the highest level. Hence the trick of BitCoin was to give the impression that the whole log lived in the cloud in unison, but in fact would be broken into chunks which would effectively make it so that separate secreted accounts could be formed, amounting to over forty billion times the nation budgets of these two states, China (Zhong-guo) and the Netherlands, of Dutch-Spain (read into).

This kind of grouping of aristo- and oligarch elements goes back a hundred years, and has secret milestones in the endings and beginnings of each of the major wars that England under the UK system has been involved in. The Breiviks, Chalmers, and the Odierno groups each represent paramilitary wings of the Euro-forted (Nordic, British, Hispanic), Nihon-Manchu forted militas, who have worked in espionage agains the United States, with planning and involvement in diabolical terror operations abroad, around the world, to gained access and escalated privileges in government.

Cesar_Tort #racist en.wikipedia.org

We hold these truths to be self-evident: that men and cultures are created un-equal. All men are unequal—nowhere in the natural world (and Man is part of Nature) is anything equal. Equality does not exist in Nature; equality only exists in the abstract world of mathematics and in the minds of delusional, liberal whites.

Alas, when non-liberal whites do what every other group on the planet is not only allowed to do but actively encouraged to do—advocate for its interests—it is called "supremacism" and "hate". This hypocrisy and absurdity is staggering.

In what deranged liberals call a "white supremacist" world, whites in fact are being denied freedom of speech and association. Pro-whites who go public are fired in the US or jailed in Europe.

Regarding this encyclopaedia's policy of "reliable sources", it has become a customary procedure for the System to relegate free thinkers and would-be heretics and their literary or scientific achievements to marginal outlets, such as self-publishing, that are very similar to those used by dissidents in the ex-Soviet Union.

Finally, when years ago I edited articles in Wikipedia I was unaware that the current zeitgeist was destroying our civilisation and the Aryan race through mass immigration into the West. So I moved on, outside the wiki.

Update of November 2016: Hopefully, the system will start to crack with the presidency of Donald Trump.

Word Salad Award

You fail linguistics forever.

Stevertigo #fundie en.wikipedia.org

The spelling belongs to the domain of language regulated by a particular government, and is therefore not a part of the Common Anglish/English/Ynglish language, which honor a greater body of people and a greater vision of government, to which the word "honor" is bound to greater ownership of the altruistic, sacrifice for the greater body of people, for the higher then the highest principle, and to the providential and not merely the prosperous.

In the context of auto- olig- and mono- archic governments, the term is also loaned to the honor-ific, to the stylistic, and in a different way than in the land abundant nations, to the materialistic.

The democratic nations have a higher concept of honor which is not undermined by the oligarchic nations concept of honor, which is flexed with indicated spelling which is stylistic in the local pattern of Received English and therefore gives loan to European English and the European ideas of government, which do not give sufficient redact form to the anti-oligarchic principle.

DanielPeggoty #fundie en.wikipedia.org

You are overlooking the fact that Hitler never had any intention of invading the British Isles, and did not want war in the West. Britain should not have declared war on Germany in 1939, by doing so it destroyed itself economically and militarily and lost all of its empire.

The UK and France should have remained neutral and allowed the Axis Powers a free hand against the Soviet Union. Nobody did more to destroy Britain's world status than Churchill, and this view is widely held today.

Krzyhorse22 #racist en.wikipedia.org

No offense but the Pashtuns of Pakistan are inferior when it comes to Afghan Pashtuns and they need to accept this fact. They have no fame outside their tribal area and that's their problem. If I'm wrong name one famous Pakistani Pashtun. Even Bacha Khan is Indian and he was anti-Pakistan all his life. Today Pakistan is forcefully deporting Pashtuns from Pakistan in front of your eyes in cold winter, a land where they were born. The non-Pashtun Pakistanis don't care, they treat all Pashtuns as terrorists and refugees, occupiers of their land and are driving them out of Pakistan.

Yet, Pakistani Pashtuns don't even have a media person to show the world what is happening to them. They have absolutely no power or even voice in Pakistan. Yet, they come here pretending and faking it as if Pakistan is home of Pashtuns. Wake up stop living in delusion, Pakistani Pashtuns are uncomparable with Afghan Pashtuns. Entire Afghanistan is ruled by Pashtuns, they naturally deserve all the respect. Again, no offense intended but this is an educational site where we teach those who don't know anything.

Krzyhorse22 #racist en.wikipedia.org

Hahaha, but it's a historical fact Afghans taught your ancestors how to read. Ghaznavids from Afghanistan brought to your ancestors in Hindustan the Persian language with instructions how to live like humans.

The national language of Pakistan (Urdu) is proof of that. In USA, Pakistanis took over the food truck business while Afghans are enrolled in the top universities. Since you live in isolated Australia, you wouldn't know that.

Krzyhorse22 #racist en.wikipedia.org

About you, there's enough evidence for me to figure out that you're a Persian. No wonder why you keep visiting this article like a fly trying to ruin it. If you look at the edits from the date this article was first created until right now, only Persians and Punjabis (neighbors of Pashtuns) came along with sneaky ideas to defame Pashtuns. These Persian and Punjabi sockpuppets all act like Yosemite Sam, obviously they're the same hate-filled sock abusers.

Franzboas #racist en.wikipedia.org

Jews are, however, a group, and a strongly identified one. They have group interests, and those interests are sometimes at odds with those who they live amongst. As I said in my response to TFD below, this doesn't imply a conspiracy. However, it's necessary to distinguish a canard or conspiracy theory from people's factual acknowledgement of or concern with the fact that Jews were strikingly overrepresented in many communist movements.

Boaxy #fundie en.wikipedia.org

I know it sucks, but that is just how wikipedia generally is. The whole point of an encyclopedia is to be politically correct and label and get as much information on every person, place, thing or ideas possible. There aren't that many predominately black shows, so it's nice to categorize them, so putting a category of "African-American" shows, in the Cosby show article makes sense. There aren't that many LGBT related anime stories that deal with transgender issues or lesbian and homosexual romance like Sailor Moon does.

So it's nice to honor that and show that Sailor Moon does fall under that circumstance. Yeah I see what you mean, I would love for people to just be people, and tv shows to just be tv shows, being that the anime community for the most part is in a bubble of sorts and uses anime to escape themselves from politically correct socialism, which is why anime is as obscure as it is. But anime like any type of culture, still falls under the sense of reality structure and if a show has lgbt characters and storylines, those categories should be added.

SaintAviator #conspiracy en.wikipedia.org

Get it right Drmies. 'Yes Russians have no doubt killed some people for sure, agents of the Western Elites, personally I think thats fine. Do you think its not two way? It certainly is.' You dont understand Drmies because your refernence points are Main Stream Western Media and you probably have not been to war. Im right arn't I. Wikipedians are by and large well informed about what they are given, mistaking that for facts or the truth is an error.

There is a war on. People are dying all over the place. If you think the West is run by people who live their Christian values and strive for democracy you will never 'Get it' that the Elites in the West are the force pushing for conflict with Russia / China because the Elites want global domination. They dont care about humanity at all. Think Star Wars The Empire. You may think that will be ok. You are wrong.

You dont know that you dont know. Therefore for many of us in the West who can see the real picture, (think the Alliance in Star Wars) the elimination of agents of the Elites is a good thing. Because Russia and its military might is the main block to what will be a two class system.

The elites and the masses. And a lot less masses than now. Think hunger games. Far fetched? No. Toned down for you? Yes. You are living in a bubble, a fiction. But you're not alone. No amount of Gatekeeping will keep out reality from bursting that bubble. One day, in fact at anytime, a large conflagration could start

SaintAviator #conspiracy en.wikipedia.org

Your're welcome. It is yes. I know of some fine editors who decided to not be admins due to the culture here. Us NPOV editors are fighting the good fight. We have to keep in mind two things. Deep state media control is fastidious in restricting 'facts' appearing in Western MSM that oppose their agenda. These are RS we could use to show reality. They know this. Two, there are editors here who are editing with a political agenda. They fall into two categories: a/ Most. Those who have drunk the Kool Aid, and dont understand that they dont know that they dont know. They resemble a lot of humanity in this respect. b/ Some. Agents. Both groups have no idea that the Deep State agenda is going to lead to a nightmare for humanity with a small group of Elites Lording it over the rest of us us 'if it gets up'.

Ironically the once free West has become controlled by 'Elites' who pretend at democracy. I was born and have always lived in the West BTW. Even more ironically Russia is one of two major powers who are keeping their Global domination agenda in check. Trump has been turned or lied all the way. So conflict looks enivitable. However there is a very interesting twist. From being almost down and out in the early 90's Russia has developed incredible weapons sytems that outmatch the Wests in key fields. Meanwhile US shortcomings in systems like the new F35 are severe. Once again this has been censored, so the Kool Aiders will scoff. We will have to see how this all plays out.

SaintAviator #conspiracy en.wikipedia.org

You really want to know? You cant stop this stuff getting in here in a world where MSM vomits out anti Putin material as part of Russophobia and a good part of the English speaking world have drunk the koolaid. They dont know that they dont know, the West has no true democracy. So they lap up the propaganda, RS of course. This is a type of Denialism.

On the up side it has no real effect whats put in here on Putin or Russia. Putin has a genuine aura of power about him and some extra judicial killings in this day and age mean nothing. Thats why Game of Thrones is so popular. Thats what people like. People know he will do what it takes to get things done. Besides it adds to his strong man image. He coundn't care less whats in here I'm sure

Kach/Kahane Chai #fundie en.wikipedia.org

[Political platform of Kach and their successor Kahane Chai, two Israeli far-right parties]

* Every Arab inside Israel is to be offered the right of residence as a non-citizen. All non-Jews will have total personal rights, and no national ones. Those who refuse the offer, and agree to leave quickly and peacefully, will receive compensation for their property, with 10% taken off and placed in a special fund for Sephardic Jews who left property behind in Arab countries and were never compensated.
* Until then, every Israeli Arab from the age of 18 will serve three years of manual labor, plus yearly manual duty as part of the reserves. The National Insurance Institute, which pays monthly checks for every Arab child until the age of 18, will be transferred to the Jewish Agency, and payment made only to Jews.
* An automatic death penalty shall be in force for every Arab terrorist caught.


* Political, cultural, social, and all non-economic ties with Germany and Austria will be ended. We will expect the Germans to continue fully their obligations to Israel and victims of German atrocities. The Germans owe us reparations for property, and we owe them nothing. The money does not absolve them of one sin, of one crime, of one murder.


* Immediate annexation of every part of Israel that is in our hands, and unlimited settlement for Jews everywhere in that area.
* Sovereignty from the Temple Mount shall be taken from the Moslems, and given to the Rabbinate. Jews will have unlimited access to those areas of the Temple Mount that are permitted entry by halakha, and a synagogue will be built immediately.


* The Army shall be given a free hand to shoot when it feels necessary at any attacker, including stone-throwers. The entire village of any terrorist, including stone-throwers, shall be expelled from the country.


* Non-Orthodox temples and rabbis will be allowed freedom to practice in Israel, but the use of the word "rav" will not be allowed ("rabbi" may be used), and no such place may use the word Beit Knesset ("temple" or "center" may be used).


* People of other faiths will be given total freedom to pray and worship and observe as they see fit, but never, ever to proselytize.
* Intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles will be forbidden by law; respect for the Gentile will be demanded, but that will not include sharing his or her bed. #conspiracy en.wikipedia.org

9/11 is a lie. The attacks were only film tricks. On any of such events, the general public is always excluded from the place where it's happening, but some reporter cameras always get the images. Why? Not because it's dangerous. Because it's faked! They can even pretend that the paralympic games are copyrighted so you aren't allowed to film and the mutilations will always look real on television although they would look different and less convincing in your amateur video. 9/11 and the following wars were indeed part of a psychological experiment. But this experiment was not about obedience to authority, race stereotypes and such sick stuff. When you believe that, then they've already shit in your head. The main problem are the illusions. They come first. Nowadays, they can show anything they want using 3D computer animations, green screen and other digital tricks. It has to be assumed that when you grow up with these illusions, watch TV or play video games for three hours a day over a period of 20 years or such, that you have a distorted sight for reality.

You will not be able to make realistic estimations about human characters or physics anymore. They already knew that beforehand. So they made some rules. When you want to open a museum or want to print or broadcast something in public, you need a license. And you have to follow their catalogue of rules. Even the internet is only trash because of their filter scripts. You might call that censorship, but they have good reasons. They're actually only making a psychological study about harmful media effects and need to see whether their sick shit is believed. You had to go to school regularly for another reason: so they have a more detailed documentation about the impact of specific media content on you. Of course education is important, but they also wanted to see how media crap impairs your education. They even pretented with their catalogue of lies that the computer was new and that there was a huge progress in computer science during the last 50 years. This ain't true. The industry indeed was only allowed to sell trash computers with limited CPU clock, little RAM and also hard disk space if they even had one during the last decades.

There are laws for the industry, too. During the 80s, 3D graphics in video games was almost impossible because the architectures were slightly too weak. My idea is that they assumed that flat sprite graphics lack realism and don't have such a big impact on the learning processes about distance, powers and space and also that the depicted stuff will subconciously be believed less. I bet, this will turn out to be true. You might not believe me, but what else do you believe then? Have you ever wondered why you were born so close to a millenium? And that the computer was so new when you were born? This is unlikely. The truth is simple: on the one hand they wanted to have a more broader media entertainment, on the other hand this has harmful effects. And they wanted quality. Just like they don't sell bad food, they needed a quality seal for movies, virtual reality arcade games and stuff.

So they made a study. And it is harmful. I know a guy who gets panic attacks whenever there's a normal firework because they put him to Iraq (where some of them were told that it is their patriotic duty to produce action movie scenes, pretend that they were actually in combat and keep their mouths shut about it btw). This is of course a bizarre reaction. But that's not PTSD, it's the effect from bizarre media depiction of mutilation and explosions. ("Officer Dan has magic legs!") Bizarre perception-> feeling in danger->bizarre reaction to protect yourself. Quite simple. It makes people sick, even if they don't believe it consciously. Subconsciously it will always be believed more or less to some extent.

Actually, murder is impossible. The world is much more safe than you'd think and many diseases don't exist. I cannot prove my assumptions, but I've got overwhelming hunches that most media content is simply bullshit. I don't want to be offensive, I just don't believe it. And it's horrible when you believe such things. Because you cannot feel safe and always feel in danger. Read across the lines and make puns with the written lies. When there are some odd names or references, you can be assured that it are just hoaxes. My favourite words are, btw, "rainbow" and "dura". Like "rainbow press" or "dura mater transplants". #conspiracy en.wikipedia.org

Am I the only one who thinks that Kraid looks like Kermit? A green frog. The inventor of Kermit, Jim Henson, died from AIDS. Note: krAID'S lair, contains AIDS and liar. Kermit contains the letters for "krem", the German word for cream when you use the old spelling. Krebs is the German word for cancer. It starts with "KR", just like Kraid. Maridia lacks only two letters and then you get mare and India. Sea and India. When you think of India, you'll probably associate it with curry. And the German word for sea is "Meer". So you'd come up with "Mercury", just like Freddy Mercury, who had died from AIDS about the time Super Metroid was released.

When you rearrange the letters of Norfair, you get "Air Fron", like "air front". When I hear "Mother Brain", I think of brain dura mater. Mater also is the latin word for Matrix. Think about the word "dura" one letter up it's "evsb", which contains "BSE", and another letter up following the alphabet it's fwtc, which contains "WTC". I'm pretty sure that there's something wrong with that and that it aren't just my paranoid delusions. The Nintendo developers picked those names with intention because they knew something special.

Cognition #conspiracy en.wikipedia.org

These charges are frivolous and outrageous. I want everyone to know what this is really about -- attempts by the pawns of Imperialism to smear the LaRouche Movement and anyone else who opposes them. Berelet is motivated by his paranoid hatred of LaRouche, the most prominent supporter in our nation of the Whig tradition American System following great statesmen such as Henry Clay, Abraham Lincoln, and Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Berlet follows Theodor Adorno's lead in his nihilistic revolutionary hatred of this system. He was a key writer at High Times Magazine, making him an important media player within the stoner drug subculure. My best guess is that continued exposure to the dangerous mind-destroying effects of marijuana caused him to take such bizarre opinions about LaRouche. You know what they say about abusers of that drug and paranoia.

The British Empire is the most evil system ever known in world history, and the system which formed the kernel of the web of current Niezschean masters of the world -- the Synarchist International. It is a worldwide Satanic Roman Empire, a leech feeding off of the misery of oppressed peoples, a genocidal parasitic Beast. It's little known among most Americans the role Britain's East India Company played in transforming the initially republican French Revolution into the Reign of Terror (in a bid to prevent any rivals from emerging on the European continent), or similarly how British Inelligence won for the Queen's financial networks control over the United States, and, at its most demonic, molded the counterculture of the late 1960's to ruin an entire generaion through drugs and pagan sexual ethics. Chip Berlet is a chump-level player/pawn in the stoner elite of the New Left 60's drugs-youth-sex-rock counterculture, a decay upon our civilization which at its height enjoyed such luminaries as the Charles Manson-supporting Weathermen and junkie hack John Lennon. Berlet can be seen as an unwitting agent of British Imperialism. If you follow his latest work, he inevitably spends most of his time atacking the anti-imperialists of the left and right alike, anyone who dares to speak against the Bush-Blair-Sharon axis and their Neo-Conservative cabal providing their ideological basis for continued war on the entire Islamic World. For a poser "rebel," Berlet is the best friend of the Cheney-Bush regime when it comes to the targets he chooses to smear. He can be seen as a low-level bully propagandist in the service of the Neo-Cons, making absurd allegations against anyone who dares to raise certain questions.

My name is mentioned in this case, but the evidence is enormously weak. The edits I have made on wikipedia have all been in keeping with the site's NPOV policy.

Chip Berlet is a 5 cent thug in a long-range Aristotelian network, an evil, Venetian-based clique which has found its most demonic individuals in men such as Bertrand Russell, the advocate of nuclear genocide; Adolf Hitler, a perverted figure of anti-christ calibre who was installed into power by British bankers; and the Beatles, generals of a literal "British Invasion," doped-up zombie devils whose atrocious personal lives matched the Satanic musical presentation of their pop songs.

The world economy is on the brink of imminent collapse, as meanwhile the Cheney cabal still lusts at the prospect of an invasion of Iran. Berlet, a small-time Goebbels, does their bidding by attacking their most critical opponents. For the world to be saved from catastrope, Mr. LaRouche's brilliant proposals to restore Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal and make peace with the world working hand in hand with all nations on Great Projects to bring prosperity to everyone must be adopted. Berlet's intense attacks on the LaRouche movement and on myself as an individual are tantamount to hateful attacks on humanity itself. The moral messages of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam should guide us in our choices and lead us to reject the wicked example of Synarchist International and thwart their maniacal plans for apocalypse. Chip Berlet must not be appeased by this committee.

Anonymous IP commenter #fundie en.wikipedia.org

There is the endlessly quoted "no man knows" (in regard to the time of the coming of Jesus or God back to earth) quote from the Bible... but that is NOT accurate, as many other times, the Bible also spells out an EXACT time, that is , 3 1/2 years after you see "an abomination on the Temple" (God will come then on that date 3 1/2 years later after that abomination on the temple ) and when the Romans killed a pig in the holy of holies back ab 2000 years ago, everyone thought that is it ... and so there is then that ongoing interpretation of what of abomination on the temple is, or would be - and there is also a need for a more exact translation, the words are not 'on the temple' but on "one wing of the temple" ... and throughout the bible there is this clear distincition also, that God's temple is NOT that actual temple on the temple mount in Jerusalem (and with most saying (and not understanding) the time of God's return cant be anytime soon as that temple has NOT YET BEEN rebuilt, but read on)... God's REAL TEMPLE is and always has been "the people" and so now with that new understnading, forearmed, YOU NOW can, YOURSELF, with no aid from Campiing et al calculate easily 3 1/2 years from that date when you see some monstrous abomination "on one wing of the temple" or ON God's people - and one wing is the Jewish people and another Wing are the rest of the people (non Israeli's or gentiles) ... and in that regard, also there is ANOTHER 3 1/2 year matching time period, that the Bible says the AC /. the antichrist ONLY rules for 3 1/2 years, and then God comes and the AC ruling one wing of the temple WOULD BE an abomination over / on that wing of the temple ... so matching those two together you see that when the AC is there in front of you ruling the People (one wing of the people) then calculate 3 1/2 years and God will come ... (footnote- in Bible calculations, pro's agree that years are 12 months of 30 days, not years of 365 days and so that small adjustment is used also) ... (do any of you realize, there in front of you, is a candidate for AC ?? or person, who can only be said to be ruler of the earth as the AC is predicted to be... (with former USSR disentigrated), what else or other power is left that can be said to be the ruler of the earth and is there any leader of that area that is a candiate that has had a sudden miraculous rise to rule ??? figure it out ... and calculate the 3 1/2 years ...

additionally, most all pros clearly feel the Bible is clear, that after God comes he rules in peace for 1,000 years and ONLY then is there afterwards at the end of that time, Armageddon with AC/Satan rising to battle again and ONLY then at that end after 1,000 years, is there a "renewal" of the earth ... or end lil hiram widazson