Enigmatic93 #sexist

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Incels have legitimate reasons to dislike women beyond "They won't fuck me"

It wouldn't be that bad if women simply ignored us and declined our advances but it goes a lot deeper than that.

They actively go out of their way to make us feel like shit by calling us creepy just for existing. I'm sure some of you remember the thread where security harassed a guy for sitting to close to a girl despite being a table apart. This stuff happens to ugly guys all the time through no fault of their own. They get the creepy label attached to them despite never actually doing anything creepy and minding their own business.

Women also have tendency to use guys as emotional tampons and ATMs. Incels don't have female freinds. At best they have women who use them when they need something.

Last, but not least, they often lie about how looks attracts them to a man or downplay how important looks are. They will often tell you that it is a guy's personality or confidence or sense of humor and other corny shit that attracts them to a guy, but as soon a guy like Jeremy Meeks shows up and wets panties across the globe despite being a criminal, all of that bullshit goes out the window.

EDIT: This is also not to mention the other microaggressions women act out against uglier men such as wearing revealing clothing but covering up whenever an incel looks at them, or moving seats on public transportation etc. I may expand on this in another thread.

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old comment by Kanna

Serious question here, and I don't mean to be insulting: are most of the Incels somewhere on the autism spectrum? I ask because you seem not to be aware of doing something that other people easily identify as "creepy". Are they all wrong, or is it just something that you do not recognize in yourself?

Ask yourself: do I stare fixedly at a person? Do I smile inappropriately, or do I fail to return a smile and a greeting? Do I follow people around? Or do I say a simple "Hello" or "Good morning", then sit down and get to work without giving the other person undue attention?

I heartily recommend the latter. That's an appropriate way to react to a classmate or coworker. Friendships come later.

old comment by Passerby

@ Kanna

As someone with Asperger's I can tell you there's a major difference between my condition and whatever insanity they have.

Sometimes I upset people without realizing it. Sometimes people even feel threatened by me and I don't know why. It can take me a while to notice things like this and even when I do notice I may not understand why people are reacting this way.

But the big difference is that it matters to me. I care that they're upset. When other people feel bad it affects me emotionally in turn. Lacking social empathy does not mean I lack empathy.

The beings calling themselves incels do not care. They can read body language I would miss and other incel posts hint that they do notice social cues thus they micromanage conversations and adopt mannerisms to try and get favourable outcomes but when it comes to people's reactions and their emotions they simply do not care. Incels expect formulaic reactions regardless of circumstance. It either furthers their own goals or impedes them. Anything impeding their goals enrages them. Other people are just narrative devices, so to speak; their feelings and indeed their very lives have no inherent significance except to fill out the story of the incel's life.

Advice that limits their physical tells such as prolonged staring won't do much to dull the fact that when you look into their eyes, however briefly, you see an abyss or pure hunger. They don't look at you like you're human, you may as well be a bug on a slide or an end table or a candy bar. But if you're something they want they see it as no different from picking up a dime off the ground. They are incapable of comprehending that your existence is not simply a part of their story.

old comment by Bimaac

Where do I start with this drivel?

They don't consider you to be creepy "just for existing", they consider you to be creepy because you fucking well are.

And if she's using you as a "emotional tampon and ATM" in the case of the former, it may be one of two things; maybe she sees you as a person she can confide in and feels comfortable around. If she's just using you a door mat and for money, grow a pair and kick her ass to the curb. Though I think an "incel's" definition of a woman using a man as an ATM is he saw two people together and the woman didn't have quite enough money on her to cover coffee, lunch, dinner, bus/subway fare etc. and the guy she was with offered to spot her to which she responded, "I'll pay you back as soon as I can get to an ATM and get some change" or, "Coffee/drinks/lunch/dinner are on me next time."

As for Jeremy Meeks, a couple things about him; one, a lot of women who commented on the fact that he's good-looking said, "It's too bad he's a criminal". Second, the guy took the attention he's received and seems to be making a genuine effort to turn his life around. For that, I applaud him. (And also because he makes "incels" and whiny "friend zoned nice guys" froth at the mouth.)

There's a huge difference in glancing at a woman wearing something revealing and flat out leering at her like I suspect most of these "incels" do. Oh and "microaggression"? For all you manbabies railing against "SJWs", nice use of their terminology.

old comment by Kadorhal

Incels have legitimate reasons to dislike women beyond "They won't fuck me"

One, "they won't fuck me" isn't a legitimate reason. Two, none of your other reasons are actual reasons either - at most charitable, they still barely go beyond being a wordier rehash of "they won't fuck me", and they're usually your own damn fault.

They actively go out of their way to make us feel like shit by calling us creepy just for existing.

Case in point - no one is fucking approaching you out of the blue to call you creepy and sic the cops on you for no reason. If you get called creepy, that's because you are acting in a creepy manner towards someone who doesn't appreciate it.

Women also have tendency to use guys as emotional tampons and ATMs. Incels don't have female freinds. At best they have women who use them when they need something.

Again, doesn't happen. None of you idiots have jobs - hell, none of you are even old enough to drive - so unless you get particularly-large allowances from mommy and daddy (which would explain why you're so entitled, come to think of it) and are somehow able to keep yourself from spending it all on games and junk food within the hour, none of you have any disposable income for women to siphon from you. And you all have the combined tact of a brick through a window and about as much knowledge of the real world as a plate of dog food, so there's really nothing you could do for them on the emotional front either.

They will often tell you that it is a guy's personality or confidence or sense of humor and other corny shit that attracts them to a guy, but as soon a guy like Jeremy Meeks shows up and wets panties across the globe despite being a criminal, all of that bullshit goes out the window.

You are aware Mr. Meeks isn't still committing crimes, yes? That's the whole point of prison, to reform people. And anyway, I'd imagine he's got more to him than just his looks considering he was able to get married and have two kids. You guys, meanwhile, are so one-dimensional we could literally replace you all with a sheet of paper with "WIMMIN R EVOL >:C" written on it and set up a chatbot to type your screeds for you, and there would be no difference - I can't even fucking tell any of you retards apart because you all speak in exactly the same manner, use exactly the same lingo, have exactly the same beliefs, and never speak of actual hobbies or anything else that isn't regarding sex to differentiate yourselves. We might as well just credit all future quotes from your subreddit to the subreddit itself rather than the individual kid who actually posted the quote; you've gone so far beyond being just an echo chamber that you've turned into a goddamned hive mind (that or you're actually one massive troll pretending to be five or six people, in which case - holy fucking shit dude).

This is also not to mention the other microaggressions women act out against uglier men such as wearing revealing clothing but covering up whenever an incel looks at them

Maybe stop ogling them with your mouth wide open and drool coming out of the side like you're a fucking animal, then.

or moving seats on public transportation

Only happens if you're acting creepy (see above) or just smell bad. Trust me on that: take your damn showers.