How come the planets were always here? God created them. We also don't forget about God because he is living and still does miracles and isn't a civillian centered God. The greeks were the only ones who believed in Zeus and whatnot, but all over the world people believe in God.
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"We also don't forget about God because he is living and still does miracles"
Not that I've seen.
"The greeks were the only ones who believed in Zeus and whatnot, but all over the world people believe in God."
And different people all over the world believe in Allah. What's your point?
No one, but no one can be this fucking stupid.
Planets were not always here.
There are literally millions of gods that people worship, your god is but one of them.
So, is he a military centered God?
I'm confused as to how the planets could always be there, but God also created them. Did the have a beginning, or didn't they?
What is a civilian centered God?
The Mayans believed in First Father, Hun Hunahpu and Xbalanque
The Aztecs believed in Quetzalcoatl and Tezcatlipoca
The Egyptians believed in Bastet, Thoth, Ra, Hathor, Mut, etc.
. . .
We can list local gods all we like, and all it proves is that a society that stayed in approximately the same place for a while developed a religion (usually based heavily on the natural environment in their location) that that society held to, but generally other nearby societies, though possibly influenced, didn't hold quite exactly the same religious views.
The fact that "God" is believed in around the globe simply testifies to:
1. the movement of people who believed in God
2a. the forced conversion of people who essentially don't believe in God, but mixed a bit of the theology (sometimes as little as simply replacing names of their deities with 'Christian' names) with the native beliefs
2b. the forced conversion of people who do now follow a religion centered on "God"
3. the prevalence of Christian missionaries
Well the Greeks DID have the greatest intelligence of the time period and of the next some 1,000 years, if things went their way, we might have had computers in the 1800's for all we know.
Okay, fail on several levels.
One: The planets have not always been here. They are around 4.56 billion years old, and formed around the same time the sun did.
Two: Show me a miracle, and I'll believe you.
Three: People all over the world believe in different Gods. If God is so obviously why doesn't everyone believe in the same one?
I think it means a 'civilisation centered god', as in the god of the bible was not limited to a single civilisation, but somehow universal? Maybe?
Who knows, either way, Fail. Epically.
"but all over the world people believe in God ..."
but not necessarily Jehovah.
Can't these MORONS understand that "god" is a title, or generic honorific rather than a name?
Oh, it's WoWC: probably "moron" is too kind
Egyptians had Osiris, Isis, Horus, Set.
Greeks had Zeus, Hera, Aris.
It wasn't always just one god.
How come fundy geniuses always begin their most insightful questions with "How come"?
How come that is, fundy geniuses?
Time to log off your forever 20th lvl character, get away from the game for a minute, change your stinky mustard-stained, torn-up, Bobba-Fett t-shirt, pick up a book on Astronomy, and get yourself one of "dem der edumacations!"
How come the planets were always here?
They weren't. There was a time in the past when there were no planets. In fact, for God to have created them, they would have to have been non-existent first.
God created them. We also don't forget about God because he is living and still does miracles
Oddly enough, though, the miracles seem to happen at the same rate as chance. What about amputees? Why doesn't God heal them?
and isn't a civillian centered God.
I'm sorry, what? I don't get at all what you're saying, here.
The greeks were the only ones who believed in Zeus and whatnot, but all over the world people believe in God.
Argument from popularity?
"How come the planets were always here?"
They weren't.
"God created them."
If god created them then they weren't always there. Gah you make my head hurt.
"We also don't forget about God because he is living and still does miracles"
None of which I've seen.
"and isn't a civillian centered God."
So he prefers the military? You die in combat you go to Valhalla or something? Are we talking about the same god here?
"The greeks were the only ones who believed in Zeus and whatnot"
Actually the Romans believed in Zeus. The Romans stole the Greek gods and renamed them. And if "by whatnot" you mean other pagan gods then "the Greeks" must have also included the Druids, Egyptians, Mayans, Norse etc etc
"but all over the world people believe in God."
3 words: "Convert or die"
"The greeks were the only ones who believed in Zeus and whatnot, but all over the world people believe in God."
NEWSFLASH - this just in, Zues IS a god!
therefore you - FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How come the planets were always here? God created them.
They weren't always here. Also, we can see planetary systems form around other stars right now. Is god ever going to be finished with this universe?
The greeks were the only ones who believed in Zeus and whatnot,
What about the Vikings, Romans, Zulus and the Celts?
but all over the world people believe in God.
Except for those who believe in other gods than yours.
Bwaaa haa de fucking haa. You obviously don't have a CLUE what you're talking about?
Your false god is outnumbered by thousands to one by other false gods. Just read up a bit on Hinduism, Greek and Roman mythology, Mayan mythology, Maori mythology, Norse mythology, the list goes oooon and oooon and ooon.
Your religion has merely spread with the European colonization, it piggybacked and took advantage of superior shipbuiding, navigation, warcraft and a desire for new lands.
We certainly didn't bring the love of all mankind everywhere we went, and many of white-mans burdens or atrocities can be laid squarely at the door of the church
The planets were not always here. Astronomy and cosmology fail. God is not alive and doing miracles. Religion fail. And, the Greek gods were versions of Egyptian gods, which were versions of Babylonian/Assyrian/Sumerian gods, which were borrowed from Hinduism, and the Greek gods in turn influenced the Roman gods, which influenced the Germanic gods, which influenced the Norse, then Celtic gods. See where I'm going with this? The "Greek" gods are only cultural variations on gods that were worshiped in many time periods and cultures, just under different cultural guises. And, they were not forced on people, which is the only reason why your god thrives today, forced conversions, and playing on the ignorance of the uneducated in third world countries. Way to go, bitch.
Yeah, no, people only believe in your god because you forced their ancestors to at knife-point.
Hey, if your god is so awesome, why are the planets named for the Roman gods? Hmm?
No planet named Noah, or Moses, or Jesus?
But we got Jupiter(Zeus), Mercury(Hermes), and
Saturn(Chronos).
And what the fuck is this shit doing on a WoW board?
"How come the planets were always here?"
They weren't.
Lie some more.
Laughing at idiots is fun.
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