an abortion is "the killing" of a baby its been medically proven that a baby is a baby at conception. and if u dont believe that well then look at this. its definitley a baby at 6 weeks. by then the baby has a heart that has measuerable heart beat and a brain that produces brain waves. 78 % of abortions dont happen to after the 6th week. God deosnt want this so either should any TRUE CHRISTIAN!!!
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Originally posted by themann1086:
73% of all statistics are made up on the spot!
Pfft, 87% of people know that it's actually 92% of statistcs that are made up on the spot!
So, it is in the moment of conception or six weeks after?, and let me tell you something, your statistics fail. I´m pro-life, but SANE.
Well, technically, God has shown many-a-time that he loves killing children. Although, my sources on this are rather vague and possibly fake (i.e., The Bible) so you'll have to trust me on this one.
If 78% of abortions "dont" happen "to after" the 6th week, it's because fundie fuckwits like Gat have forced so many clinics to close and have thus made it impossible for women to obtain them earlier when the "baby" is still nothing but a cluster of non-sentient cells.
BTW, who else thinks "Gat" is the sound one makes when retching after reading such nonsense?
"an abortion is "the killing" of a baby its been medically proven that a baby is a baby at conception."
No, it's been stated by zealous Xians, shouted by abortion protesters, spouted by idiots pretending to be intellectuals, like Ham and Hovind, but it has NOT been "medically proven."
"and if u dont believe that well then look at this. its definitley a baby at 6 weeks. by then the baby has a heart that has measuerable heart beat and a brain that produces brain waves."
No, I think you're moving development up quite a bit to try to support your incorrect assertion. There is no heart beat at 6 weeks.
Even if there were, so what?
"78 % of abortions dont happen to after the 6th week. God deosnt want this so either should any TRUE CHRISTIAN!!!"
Before you tell us what "God" wants, you should establish that "God" actually exists. And, who are you to decide what "TRUE CHRISTIANS" should believe? Show me the Bible verses in which Jesus addresses abortion. Go ahead, I'm waiting.
its been medically proven that a baby is a baby at conception.
Show us this proof, as FishyFred said.
its definitley a baby at 6 weeks. by then the baby has a heart that has measuerable heart beat and a brain that produces brain waves.
I call bullshit.
93883:
The vast majority of abortions happen before any little hands or little feet are in evidence, IIRC. And late-term abortions generally have to do with severe medical problems, so the pictures are misleading. It doesn't matter how cute a baby is (and yes, I think an eight-month fetus is pretty much a baby) if it has died in the womb and is about to poison the mother. You just do the operation and save the life that you can.
That being said, if you don't like the idea of abortion (and let's face it, no-one has an abortion for fun) the thing to do is support contraception and the morning-after pill.
Irene
I have to admit that it's bald-faced lying such as this post, as well as the violent methods of the anti-abortion movement and the hypocrisy of many of its adherents, that have made me as rabidly pro-choice as I am.
You know, if god actually 'thought' these things, why does he rely on a retard like yourself to spread the word? 8 billion people and he can't speak for himself? What is he, a ventrilquist doll?
Gat, why don't you have a brain that produces brain waves?
God deosnt want this so either should any TRUE CHRISTIAN!!!
Atrocious spelling aside, if God doesn't like abortion then God can put a stop to it himself. Did you ever think that his lack of action could all be part of his divine plan?
Besides, according to the Bible, a baby isn't recognized as a living entity until it is a month old. (Leviticus 27:6, Numbers 3:15-16)
<< You know, if god actually 'thought' these things, why does he rely on a retard like yourself to spread the word? 8 billion people and he can't speak for himself? What is he, a ventrilquist doll? >>
Redhunter: A ventriloquist doll? That's brilliant! That's the most ingenious characterization of God I've ever seen; the only problem is that the dummies are the ones doing the talking.
~David D.G.
78 % of abortions dont happen to after the 6th week.
If this is true, it's because most people don't realize they're pregnant until week 4~ and then they have to actually make the appointment, which may mean going for a counseling session, waiting 24-48 hours between appointments, fighting through protestors, etc.
But even with all that, 58% of abortions happen before week 8, and 90% happen week 12 or earlier. It's almost like women are rational actors who want to minimize their own pain and risk or something.
At conception a spermy (you know that swimming cell) swims to the egg and the two become good friends. So much so that they share their genetic information and instead of being two haploid cells they become one diploid cell. But its a cell, with no heart beat, not even a heart, no brain, no nerves, no eyes, nothing, Just a single cell that will eventually split into many more. But unfortunately its not sex and then "wow! look, its a baby."
well dumb ass, if you're gonna start trying to sound like you've got any grip on medical terms, you would know that a baby isnt a baby till birth. prior to birth it is a fetus, and before that it is a zygote. at 6 weeks it is still a zygote. idot
Not mediclly proven?
"To accept the fact that after fertilization has taken place a new human has come into being is no longer a matter of taste or opinion ... it is plain experimental evidence." -Father of Modern Genetics" Dr. Jerome Lejeune1
"By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception." - Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic1
"The exact moment of the beginning of personhood and of the human body is at the moment of conception." - Dr. McCarthy de Mere, medical doctor and law professor, University of Tennessee1
"I am no more prepared to say that these early stages represent an incomplete human being than I would be to say that the child prior to the dramatic effects of puberty ... is not a human being." - Dr. Alfred Bongiovanni, University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine1
"To say that the beginning of human life cannot be determined scientifically is utterly ridiculous." - Dr. Richard V. Jaynes1
"Conception confers life and makes that life one of a kind." -Dr. Landrum Shettles, the "Father of In Vitro Fertilization"1
1. U.S. Senate Judiciary Subcommittee Hearing, April 23-24 1981
Need I go on?
"It's been medically proven that a baby is a baby at conception, and if you don't believe that then look at this: It's definitley a baby at 6 weeks"
First they say it's medically proven that a ZYGOTE is a baby, then they just ASSERT that a FETUS is a baby at 6 weeks.
It's like some guy promising you a simply average hamburger, then giving you a shitty disk of tofu. They can't even move the goal posts to a position they can remotely support.
Confused?
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