50% of students in high school, will lose their faith for two reasons. One is what is being taught in "Science class". Two is peer pressure from others who have learned the samething.
Of that 50%, those who go to college, 70% will lose their faith. And those who do not conform, or act like the others to fit in, while in science class. Will fail the course because the professor will take a bias attitude towards them. Even encurage of classmates to make fun of them during class, for what they believe.
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Well, I'm one who lost the faith (though I was never anywhere near as far-out as these guys to begin with) - but the main factor was not science class nor peer pressure nor college. The main factor was beginning to look at things a little more closely because I decided it was time to get serious or get out instead of half-assing it. And the more I saw of those who "got serious", the less I wanted anything to do with any of them.
Gee, I suppose it would have nothing to do with people being tired of the arrogance, the hipocrisy, the irony and the "if you're not with me you're against me" attitude.
That would have nothing to do with it, right? Instead, play pin-the-tail-on-the-antichrist-evilutionists.
Y'know, I'm suprised no one has mentioned this already, but, er... peer pressure? WTF?
I know a bunch of people who have deconverted, hell, I've deconverted a number. And for all the reasons I've seen people deconvert, one thing I've NEVER seen anyone deconvert over is peer pressure.
Going to a private Christian high school, and seeing the hatred and bigotry inherent in organized religion, was what caused me to "lose my faith."
Or, as I like to call it, "think for myself." :-)
And I love those percentages. Are there exit polls outside of high schools and college? "Yes or No: Did you lose your faith while attending this school?" I mean, seriously?
Admin3's point is that you should "shield" students from "the world" (that's literally the word fundies use for "reality" - like it's a bad thing) by either not educating them (thus challenging their views and teaching them to think on their own) or by further indoctrinating them only in the views they already hold (with bible colleges and the like). Yay for the future of America!
70% of the 50%!!! So we're talking 35% of the students who lost their faith in high school will go on to college and re-lose their faith!!!!!!!!
I havent laughed so hard in years. These people are certifiable!!!!
Yep, education is the debil!
Seriously though, isn't that site a Poe?
One is what is being taught in "Science class". Two is peer pressure from others who have learned the samething.
Whats being taught in science classes has nothing to do with religion or faith. Evolution does not deny the existence of a god.
Of that 50%, those who go to college, 70% will lose their faith.
Citation needed.
School had nearly no impact in my disbelief. Reality was my first clue, it all falls into place when you realize all literature is fiction. ( I consider science history, craft, specialized and even biographical books reference books)
The Library agrees
The only peer pressure (regarding religion, that is)I've ever felt in school was to pretend that I was a Christian. Isn't that strange?
And stop abusing the comma! What has that poor puncuation mark ever done to you?
Writing in complete sentences and spelling words correctly would also be nice. It's hard to take someone talking about school seriously when that person's writing makes you doubt they ever went to school at all.
So science education and peer pressure will cause some one to lose their faith. However, your lot often insists that the existence of your god is self evident. If that were the case, wouldn't that trump an amount of disputation?
You clearly haven't thought this through, Admin3. I suggest you go back to the drawing board and start again. Oh, and while you are there, you may want to look up research methodology. Making up statistics is frowned upon in real scientific circles.
Of the 50 percent who lose their faith in high school, 70 percent will lose their faith in college? Huh?
I was taught religion in religion class and science in science class. Nobody ever pushed anyone to believe or to not believe, as far as I remember. Most kids went through confirmation, but mostly to get presents.
No teacher ever encourages bullying in any form. If people have lost faith, it will be for their own reasons, not in class bullying. You know, thinking for themselves. I don't think your God appreciates that.
I suspect that if half the kids are losing faith in high school, and it's at all connected to evolutionary theory, it's because their churches have made it an all-or-nothing debate. They're not open to seeing the Bible as allegory, thus preserving faith AND the evidence they've been shown in school.
YOU GUYS made it a scorched-Earth policy, now you're eating ashes.
As for college, doesn't EVERY class require that you parrot the beliefs of your professor? If she thinks Marlowe wrote Macbeth, put that in your test answers. If he believes communism causes cancer, roger that at exam time. If they flog evolutionary theory, tell them what they want to hear. And move on, in all cases...
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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