[God doesn't belong in the government, simple as that.]
Okay... if you're sure you feel that way, you'd better write off your weekends: It's gonna' take a while for you to go through every county, city, state, and federal law book omitting all laws based upon the 10 Commandments. You'll want to start with those opposing murder, rape, and theft, for starters.
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There are laws in this country based on the 10 commandments?
Oh, yeah, I remember. They're called 'blue' or Jim Crow laws, if I'm not mistaken. Similar to Prop 8 here in Cal.
Haven't those fuckers been repealed yet?
At the end of the day, Brother Christian, puritanical and tyrannical religious cults are the last thing anybody wants to be part of their government, because God is a psychotic madman and Satan is an effete piss-sipper. Also, you are a drooling simpleton with puritanical tendencies and the mind of an ant.
"Okay... if you're sure you feel that way, you'd better write off your weekends: It's gonna' take a while for you to go through every county, city, state, and federal law book omitting all laws based upon the 10 Commandments."
Shouldn't take long at all since none of them are.
"You'll want to start with those opposing murder, rape, and theft, for starters."
What about them? They're not based on your Ten Commandments. They're based on, if anything, the Golden Rule and common fucking sense you moron.
Yeah, think what you want, but those laws are about rights (I have the right to not be killed, for example), not the commandments which only specify no murdering or stealing; lying in the general sense is not against the law and the rest are not part of the penal code at all (unless, and I'm sure you'd love to, you want to start prosecuting people for thought crimes).
Hey, I totally blogged on this! *copy* *paste*
Why is it so important to display the Ten Commandments in courthouses? Because they're the basis of our legal system, of course. As everyone knows, we have laws mandating that everyone worship the God of Abraham, preventing people from worshipping before idols of him or saying "Oh my God!", and working on Sundays is punishable by death or exportation. The Ten Commandments and Christianity are in no way the basis for any of our laws, despite what some people would have you believe. The only commandments that have analogues in American law are those prohibiting murder, theft, and lying, and the latter is illegal only when you are under oath. To claim that divine proclamation is the only reason we consider murder and theft immoral is the height of arrogance, and ignores the fact that every known legal code in history, religious or secular, before Judeo-Christianity and after, has prohibited these things.
George Carlin has more on the subject.
Yeah, laws like no speeding, peeping, libel, slander, and religious freedom. None of those are in the Ten Commandments. Actually, now that I think about it, religious freedom is nowhere in the bible. Interesting.
Another point of clarification: adultery is, in fact, illegal in the USA when soldiers commit it (so sayeth the Uniform Code of Military Justice).
In general, though, only murder and theft are found both in the Commandments and U.S. law, and even those were part of civilized culture long before the Old Testament stories were first told.
Didn't need to write off the weekend. Turns out there ARE none.
Well, if you mean the biblical laws concerning rape, that can be found within the bible (but in Deuteronomy 22, outside of the 10 commandments)...
And btw. maybe one should also mention that all of these laws only apply to women within your own "tribe".
As for any other laws...
And looking at the bible it seems to be certain that the USA would be a rather oppressive country if its laws were based upon biblical laws.
How idiotic can Christman get?
The Commandments are based on customs and laws that pre-existed them.
Perhaps someone would kindle give Christmas two tables and make him swallow them - unpolished granite would be best.
'It's gonna' take a while for you to go through every county, city, state, and federal law book omitting all laws based upon the 10 Commandments.'
Easy. Most neanderthal laws are supposedly based on the Bible, such as these stupid anti-dancing laws that exist in certain parts of the country.
1) Separation of Church and State--our laws are not based on the Bible.
2) Murder was illegal before Christ, you know.
3) Rape is not mentioned in the 10 Commandments.
Just about every religion has 10 commandment like rules.
And murder, theft, and rape are condoned in certian parts of the bible.
@Rat of Steel: Another point of
I realize I'm being petty here, but sailors (like me), marines and airmen are not soldiers, yet we are all subject to the UCMJ.
I'm assuming this guy sees anti-rape laws as an extension of "Thou shalt not commit adultery."
Of course, to my knowledge, regular adultery isn't illegal anywhere per se (save perhaps for the aforementioned), though it is generally considered grounds for divorce.
What that means is, non-religious laws should not depend on religious arguments for their justification (or opposition).
There are perfectly good non-religious justifications for laws against murder, rape, and theft, so those would not be struck down. However, statutes that prohibit same-sex civil marriage and alcohol sales on Sundays-- among others-- have no legitimate non-religious arguments in their favor, and thus would be struck down.
By the way, none of the Ten Commandments address the issue of rape, at least not directly: I think it's covered by the one against theft (because, at the time, raping a man's wife was considered theft of his sexual property).
Ummm, yeah, "no rape" isn't a commandment, moron. And if you take the 10 suggestions as your sole basis of law, then child molestation would be ok too.
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