When adding evolution to God's creation, there are some things that need to be considered.
1) If evolution goes so well with God, why did Darwin have to recant his faith in order to write his theory? Can we do something the originator of evolution could not?
2) If evolution goes so well with God, then it should be used to bring people closer to God. And there should not be people losing their faith due to believing it.
3) Evolution should be used as a salvation tool, if it works so well with God. The preaching of it alone should draw people to the front of the church to get saved. But is this what we see?
4) Evolutionists argue that evolution is not a religion. But yet will accept someone who mixes both as one of their own. And will defend them in debates as well. Can a non-religous subject be combined with a religous one and work without turning the non-religous one into religion?
5) Evolution and God working together should not promote God hate sites like FSTDT.com
Added: 6) And if theistic evolution is ok, why is it such a problem that Darwin may have recanted it on his death bed so he could be right with God and go to heaven?
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1. Darwin didn't recant his faith because with it he couldn't create the theory. It was because his daughter died.
2. Evolution isn't supposed to "go so well with God", it's supposed to be true.
3. See 2.
4. Evolution isn't a religion. It's a scientific theory. Someone can accept evolution without abandoning their religion; there's nothing wrong with that.
5. What? See 3.
6. a) Darwin probably didn't do that.
6. b) Even if he did, it doesn't mean anything.
"4) Dieters argue that dieting is not a religion. But yet will accept someone who mixes both as one of their own. And will defend them in debates as well. Can a non-religous subject be combined with a religous one and work without turning the non-religous one into religion?"
Goodness, doesn't your argument make sense now?
If this is supposed to be food for thought, why does it smell like shit?
Evolution does not need to be reconciled with myth.
Evolution is NOT for the forty-seventh million, six-hundred and fifteen thousand, three-hundred and twentieth time, a fucking religion!
I'm sick and tired of these motherfuckin fundies on this motherfuckin re-definition trip![/sam jackson mode]
6) This story was spread by people who were not present at his death. His daughter, who was present, refuted it completely.
Sorry, ikester, but Jesus doesn't like liars!
"5) Evolution and God working together should not promote God hate sites like FSTDT.com"
We don't hate what we do not believe even exists. That would be like hating unicorns and leprechauns.
(Well, I do hate leprechauns, but only when they're used as lawn ornaments)
If the evolution concept destroys religion, that itself will be proof that we are evolving into better beings.
But you are going to need summer school to keep up. You need to learn science and logic, then start thinking for yourself. You're not getting it as of now.
Darwin had a crisis due to personal reasons, not to his theory. And mind this, evolution explains ONLY the origin of spices and contradicts ONLY Genesis, which has many inconsistencies, to begin with. Whether you want to consider, ok, who did men evolve?, the answer may be God or...........well, whatever you choose.
Evolution doesn't exclude God, only a literal interpretation of the Bible, which was already contradicted by other sciences. That's what theistic evolution is about. It's not a religion, cult, denomination or any other. It is simply a way a keeping faith in God while not denying facts. It's not supposed to be used as a salvation tool, or to bring people closer to God.
Too many creationist cannards to shake a stick at..
1) If evolution goes so well with God, why did Darwin have to recant his faith in order to write his theory? Can we do something the originator of evolution could not? Because he didnt, and he isnt.
Darwin remained a devout christian untill almost the end of his life. (When he became agnostic).
And he is not the originator of evolution.
2) If evolution goes so well with God, then it should be used to bring people closer to God. And there should not be people losing their faith due to believing it. No it shouldnt. Evolution is a biological process. Not a christian religious doctrine.
3) Evolution should be used as a salvation tool, if it works so well with God. The preaching of it alone should draw people to the front of the church to get saved. But is this what we see? No evolution should NOT be used as a "salvation tool", Fire hoses, Life jackets. and cardiac defibrulators should be used as "salvation tools".
People are not drawn to the front of churches to get saved, they are drawn to the antibiotic, the search and rescue, the chemotherepy, etc etc...
And preaching evolution is like preaching gravity. You just look stupid.
4 and 5 are just too stupid to imagine.
6) And if theistic evolution is ok, why is it such a problem that Darwin may have recanted it on his death bed so he could be right with God and go to heaven?" Huh? Because it isnt.
Darwin did not recant either the theory of evolution by sexual selection, or "theistic evolution" on his deathbed or anyplace else for that matter.
The lady hope myth has been discredited for 100 years. Why do creationists keep spewing new variants of it?
If evolution goes so well with God, then it should be used to bring people closer to God. And there should not be people losing their faith due to believing it.
Most deconverted Christians I know lost their faith because they actually read the Bible. I guess according to you, the Bible should be removed from Christian teachings.
Science is here. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Religion is here.
None of your questions have anything to do with science. And millions of SENSIBLE Christians don't have any difficulty with evolution.
An old thread, but adding a missing factoid: "why is it such a problem that Darwin may have recanted it on his death bed" implies that "evolutionists" are "denialists", trying to find an excuse about Darwin's beliefs. Some already mentioned that the recanting story is false. However, even if it was true, it would not change the fact that since then, evolution has been observed, confirmed and its understanding improved by many. The genetic code was only discovered later, for instance. Reality may be denied and ignored, but cannot be cast away with thoughts and beliefs, it'll still be there the next morning or for the next generation.
Confused?
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