What is wrong with guilt and shame? Your child should know that masturbation shameful because it is. How else are they going to learn this if you don't explicitly tell them? Why should alienating the child be avoided more so than stopping the act of masturbation?
Are you afraid the child will rebel once he turns 18 and turn into a promiscuous heathen when he meets the "real world"? This is possible, but he certainly would be worse off hitting the "real world" with mortal sin having stained his soul.
However, if you are vigilant and strictly correct him before he becomes addicted to it, he will greatly respect you when he grows older and continues to discover the beauty of chastity and purity. He will think, "Wow, although I didn't realize it at the time, my parents really cared for me!"
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"Your child should know that masturbation shameful because it is"
Child (frustrated): "I'm not *11* anymore, I'm *17*!! I don't accept 'because it just IS' as a valid reason for anything anymore!!!"
I apologize for my last post. I've changed my mind. The Catholics ARE strange.
People (children and adults) should feel guilty and ashamed if they harm someone else, or if they steal something, or if they are cruel to another person, or to an animal. Religious people can add a few more things ....shall we say a total of ten?... for which they might feel guilty. Last I looked at the list, "thou shalt not masturbate" was neither on the Top Ten little-list-o-sins, not are there any hymns which condemn masturbation.
he will greatly respect you when he grows older and continues to discover the beauty of chastity and purity.
Sure. Right after he thanks you for poking his eyes out as he grows older and continues to discover the beauty of being reliant on guide dogs & and a stick to get around and banging his shin on the coffee table in even the brightest lit of rooms. Both of these things are equally certain to happen.
Now all you have to do is provide a reason, other than a misunderstood Bible quote, why masturbation is shameful. Just out of curiosity, what's your opinion of nocturnal emissions? Do you go along with all the purification rituals outlined in Leviticus?
What is it with Frums and their hatred of all things sexual?
Because they can't control it with an iron fist like they can some of the others. Biological urges can't be squashed.
The greatest fear of crazy fundies is that someone in their circle might find out that their claims about punishment for "evil sins" is complete bullshit, so they work to cover up and exclude themselves from seeing these sins. But sex is a hard one to exclude oneself from, as especially teenagers tend to be drawn to it.
"Your child should know that masturbation shameful because it is. How else are they going to learn this if you don't explicitly tell them?"
Because there is LITERALLY no other way you could know. Seriously. Masturbation is only shameful if you say it is.
Then you wonder why Spike Milligan became a lapsed Catholic, Germear?
And it was knee-tremblers with Louise from Bexhill which caused his premature aging! X3
...that, and the smell of burning hairs from the waist downwards!
What is wrong with guilt and shame?
If it is for the right reason, there is nothing wrong.
Your child should know that masturbation shameful because it is.
How so?
How else are they going to learn this if you don't explicitly tell them? Why should alienating the child be avoided more so than stopping the act of masturbation?
Citation needed
Are you afraid the child will rebel once he turns 18 and turn into a promiscuous heathen when he meets the "real world"?
By shielding them away from what the real world is, that will be the most damaging thing you can do.
This is possible, but he certainly would be worse off hitting the "real world" with mortal sin having stained his soul.
As I said earlier, shielding them from the real world will hurt them more in living.
However, if you are vigilant and strictly correct him before he becomes addicted to it, he will greatly respect you when he grows older and continues to discover the beauty of chastity and purity.
You know that thing about rebellion? By being an over-bearing control freak will make that rebellion happen well before the age of 18.
He will think, "Wow, although I didn't realize it at the time, my parents really cared for me!"
The reality of it is the kid will thing "Fuck my parents were total asshats.
@DarkPhoenix , I couldn't have said it any better myself.
Also, my new phone keeps trying to turn your name into "Earphone." Weird.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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