(If he (god) didn't approve of the Holocaust, he wouldn't have let it happen. Would you let it happen if you had infinite power?)
If I were God I would absolutely allow it. I would have the wisdom of knowing that by giving man free will he would ultimately destroy himself, proving that my way is RIGHT. If man chooses folly, let Him. If he were to reject me and my Son he would burn in Hell for eternity because he RICHLY deserves it! Satan rejected His authority and he awaits judgement. And any man STUPID ENOUGH to follow the DEVIL by rejecting me and my Son would burn in the LOWEST PIT OF HELL WITH HIM!
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Giving one free will, just to prove that only the giver's way is acceptable?
Er...proving such to what, exactly? The insensate parts of existence?
Damn ... I almost would start wishing Heaven and Hell did exist ...
Just to know that *you* at least will burn for eternity, due to you total lack of compassion with other people.
Well at least I will have the satisfaction of knowing you will waste your pathetic life waiting for better thing to come .... which they won't.
Soo, what you're saying, among other vile things, is that "god's way" is to basically do nothing. Almost as if he weren't even there. Right.
I would probably approve of this notion of God if only He had the sense to, say, show up at Hitler's doorstep, in presence of numerous witnesses, and shake His omnipotent finger at the insane turn that man's free will had taken.
I approve (from the viewpoint of God) of letting men sort themselves out, but only after giving a contemporary indication of my own stance and consequences of not abiding by it.
But remember..
God "loves" you.
So...it is wise to have creations that kill themselves? It is good to bring harm to your creations for not guessing that you exist, despite giving them no real reason to believe so? It is kind to give them the ability to make destructive choices and punish them for it, just so that you can say that you gave them "free will"?
I fear that you are just as much of a heartless tyrant as you God...why can't you people be more like Jesus?
Hell is, apparently, full of decent people while heaven is full of selfish bigots.
I'll take hell, thank you very much.
I can't add anything to point out how sick and twisted justifying the Holocaust is. However, I can note that since this dude's using a clearly Dantesque (and laughably non-scriptural) Hell, then the only burn at the lowest pit would be freezer burn. I know I shouldn't expect someone who justifies genocide to be able to recall small details about the Divine Comedy, but still...
Now, Thundersqueaks makes a very good point.
If God is omniscient, he cannot escape knowing how he would act in any given situation, making choice purely nominal. Moreover, unlike Man, God also has knowledge and control of what choices he is to choose from, so Fate pretty much pwns God, and by extension His Creation.
What a fucking ludicrous argument!
John Lewis Brooks, you fucking Nazi - Sie können meinen Arsch lecken!
Got that right, Jack Bauer. :)
Let's ask johnlewisbrooks to share a room with Milosevic.
"It's not genocide. Just ethnic cleansing." Just like Sanderbehandlung before it.
Yeah, 'cept the Jews were Yahweh's favoured people and all... So if that's how he treats his favoured people, makes him a bit of a cunt, eh?
Funny, if I were God - the all-powerful, all-knowing creator of all that is I wouldn't give a fuck what puny mortals on some tiny insignificant planet thought of me or my son. And I certainly wouldn't demand worship or adherence to silly, arbitrary rules. Why would I?
"If I were God I would absolutely allow it. I would have the wisdom of knowing that by giving man free will he would ultimately destroy himself, proving that my way is RIGHT."
First of all, you're a sick fuck. Second of all, if man has destroyed himself you being right would be irrelevant as nobody's around any longer to give a damn.
"If man chooses folly, let Him. If he were to reject me and my Son he would burn in Hell for eternity because he RICHLY deserves it!"
Done with your power trip yet? Look, any entity that has existed for an infinite amount of time would be much, much, much more wise than the bloodthirsty, barbaric mook depicted in the Babble.
"Satan rejected His authority and he awaits judgement. And any man STUPID ENOUGH to follow the DEVIL by rejecting me and my Son would burn in the LOWEST PIT OF HELL WITH HIM!"
But you still love them, right? That's the whole Catch 22 with your deity. He promises merciless torment for all eternity for the slightest misdeed (such as disbelief) and yet his followers continually claim he loves us all. You don't get to torment someone for eternity in a hellish pit and then claim you love them. Especially when you're also supposedly omnipotent and omnibenevolent.
If I were God, I would not require you to worship me, I would not send my Son to die for your sins, and there would be no Hell for me to send you.
"If I were God I would absolutely allow it. I would have the wisdom of knowing that by giving man free will he would ultimately destroy himself, proving that my way is RIGHT."
If you give a child a gun, and he shoots himself or his friend with it, then said "I knew that would happen", then you're an idiot.
Horsefeathers: "But you still love them, right? That's the whole Catch 22 with your deity. He promises merciless torment for all eternity for the slightest misdeed (such as disbelief) and yet his followers continually claim he loves us all. You don't get to torment someone for eternity in a hellish pit and then claim you love them. Especially when you're also supposedly omnipotent and omnibenevolent."
Kinda sounds like an abusive relationship, huh? A relationship like this between people would have the authorities at the door in minutes, but in the church, its perfectly acceptable.
"If man chooses folly, let Him"
Ahem.
"Satan rejected His authority and he awaits judgement." And Satan's been "awaiting" judgement for thousands of years. In the mean time, he's been allowed to roam free on Earth, causing all sorts of calamities and even tricking people into giving up their belief in God's Son.
Hell, even the stupidest hick backwater deputy knows how to lock up a criminal before his trial and sentencing. How come God can't do that?
If I were God, I'd just stop the whole fucking thing before it happened.
With great power comes great responsibility. Either God doesn't exist, He's actively malevolent and doesn't give a shit about us until later, or He's spectacularly inept when it comes to omnipotence. Take your pick.
"If man chooses folly, let Him."
Using the capitalized "Him" in reference to "man"? Careful, John. That's idolatry. You'll burn in Hell for that.
Yet, your god flooded the world because it was "wicked." Your god destroyed two cities because they were "wicked." Your god showed its displeasure with ancient Egypt by showering ten plagues on its people. However, when it came to stopping The Axis powers, we were pretty much left on our own.
Admit it brooks, for all your colorful imagery, you are nothing but a cowardly bootlicker.
If I were God, I'd decide to do a world tour on an annual basis. All questions about my opinion on the latest political issue would be answered there, and the tour would also remind people that I exist.
Confused?
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