Holland is part of what is known as the Low Countries (because of being near or under sea level). But Holland is not just low geographically. It is very low morally as well. Indeed, it has been in such a moral freefall over the past few decades that one wonders whether it can sink any further into the abyss.
Indeed, you have to hand it to the Dutch. When it comes to moral decadence, political correctness, and sheer madness, they have to be a world leader. Holland is already famous – or infamous – for its legal euthanasia, same-sex marriage, red-light districts, marijuana cafes, and so on.
It is arguably one of the most progressive – that is, regressive – nations on earth. Bear in mind however that much of this decadence and debauchery takes place in the cites – Amsterdam, Rotterdam, the Hague, etc. – and most rural Hollanders are also appalled at their urban cousins.
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Wap, wap, wap. The randiest of the gastropods is the limpet. This hot-blooded little beast with its tent-like shell is always on the job. Its extra-marital activities are something startling. Frankly I don't know how the female limpet finds the time to adhere to the rock-face.
It is precisely because the Dutch have never given a rat's ass about your kind of "morality" that the Enlightenment Period and the Scientific Revolution both got their starts there.
And what's so bad about Marijuana? You don't see the Bible condemning marijuana use anywhere, do ya?
How is "political correctness" conflated to be inherently bad? And why is it that same-sex marriage, euthanasia, prostitution, and pot use are so bad? We are the murder capital of the world, and you are talking down to another country for these petty issues....hilarious!
Ah yes, tulips, windmills, wooden shoes, and dikes with little fingers in them. I was born Dutch. Liberalism provides universal free health care, free internet access, unlimited free tuition, and even unemployment insurance after you graduate. Yeah, this takes a lot of tax money, but when everyone reaches their full potential it is easily covered. Visit The Netherlands sometime and you will learn about tolerance.
ROT ROT ROT ROTER ROT ROT ROTTERDAM
ROT ROT ROT ROTER ROT ROT ROTTERDAM
ROT ROT ROT ROTER ROT ROT ROTTERDAM
ROT ROT ROT ROTER ROT ROTTERDAM IS HARD?
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U312wORI82o
As the proud son of a Dutchman, all I've got to say is...
Now, let's compare crime rates between the prudish U.S. and progressive-regressive (no comment) Holland.
"Holland is already famous... for its legal euthanasia, same-sex marriage, red-light districts, marijuana cafes, and so on"
*moves to Holland*
I'm not even Dutch and this made me so angry I literally got hot. Every single Dutch person I've ever talked to online has been really awesome and nice. Rrrgh.
Edit: Okay, the comments are hilarious and have restored my sanity. Thanks guys. Count me in the "moving to the Netherlands" camp if the US gets too damn religious.
I'm Dutch and the last sentence is bullshit (shocking 'eh?)
If there's decadence and debauchery going on, it's in the drinking sheds of farmer kids.
Yeah, 'cos the U.S. is so darn moral with the world's highest murder rate and a baby-brained Shrub as a leader.
Imma movin' with ma aunt an' ma uncle in Holland.
But Holland is not just low geographically. It is very low morally as well.
And if there were some scientifically plausible mechanism for altitude to affect morality, that comparison might actually be significant in some way. Evidently the numerologists are branching into geography now.
progressive =/= regressive.
Also, if this man had studied any history at all, he'd have found out that Amsterdam has been a very open and tolerant city that has allowed prostitutes for centuries.
@Thax
Yes, but we've got our fundies pretty well potty trained, they won't bother us too much.
And might I add:
Proud to be Dutch :D
or as some more radical countrymen would say:
If you ain't Dutch, you ain't much ....
(but that obviously not true, lot's of nice people everywhere)
now excuse me, I have to attent an orgy this evening, live in the Neteherlands is hard :D
"and most rural Hollanders are also appalled at their urban cousins"
Citation, or your entire point gets thrown out as lying bullshit.
I am Dutch and as far as I know God hasn't struck us down with fire and brimstone. I guess he has an bad aim.
and most rural Hollanders are also appalled at their urban cousins.
I live in the rural part of the Netherlands and we are not appalled by our countrymen in Amsterdam. You are full of bullshit.
Yeah, uh-huh...that's nice. Personally, I think it's good that they're looking at things that are worth picking fights over, and what aren't.
Yep, their crime rate is far lower than ours. So is the murder rate. STD's. Teenage pregnancies. And on and on. What's more, the citizens are literate. Compared with the Netherlands the U. S. is dysfunctional.
I just took a look in the CIA World Factbook.
It seems God must like the Dutch as their average life expectancy is 79.25 years compared to the USA's 78.14 years.
And the end effect of all those legal drugs, same-sex marriages and regulated brothels is that the population has an AIDS rate a third of the USA's (0.2% compared to 0.6%).
1. Legal prostitution allows the state to impose rules on the prostitutes, so they stay clean, ergo, less STDs.
2. Since the legalization of pot the amount of users in Holland has actually gone down (and raised in Germany).
3. The people in New Orleans could've learned a little from the way the Dutch build dikes.
4. The dutch are very very friendly and tolerant people and most of them are bilingual, which you are not. So stop dissing the dutch, you could learn from them.
Murders per capita:
#24 United States: 0.042802 per 1,000 people
#51 Netherlands: 0.0111538 per 1,000 people
Assaults per capita:
#6 United States: 7.56923 per 1,000 people
#18 Netherlands: 2.68964 per 1,000 people
Rapes per capita:
#9 United States: 0.301318 per 1,000 people
#22 Netherlands: 0.100445 per 1,000 people
#107 United States: 0.0574841 per 1 million people
#94 Netherlands: 0.182849 per 1 million people
Gasp! They have more unpaid parking fines per person than us! How immoral!
As for legal prostitution, I live in the state of Colorado. Colorado became a state in 1876, and prostitution was not criminalized here until 1914. Prostitution was therefore legal here for 38 years, and the state seemed to do quite well.
I have checked this story and it is simply not true. Nude recreation is not allowed and therefore sex is also not allowed in the Vondelpark. Canines are allowed without a leash as well. (See: http://www.oudzuid.amsterdam.nl/divers/nieuwsarchief/het_vondelpark?popup=false&focus=true )
I myself am Dutch and I am very glad that Holland is such a free and open minded country. The morals you consider low are quite the opposite in my opinion (legal euthanasia, same-sex marriage, red-light districts, marijuana cafes, and so on). These things will be done wether legal or not. In my opinion it is always better to regulate than to opress.
The reason that some rural Dutch are appalled at their urban cousins is mostly because of their religious intolerance and/or fear of things unknown.
Another sinister Dutchy here. We're an evil bunch with all our grass-growing, orgy-filled, openly homosexual couples running about, not feel guilty about it at all. </sarcasm>
Seriously, we look down on the USA. You elected Bush for president. TWICE! How stupid can you get?
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