[MessianicServant discoursing on God's "faireness"]:
Children who die in their sins may simply be locked away in isolation, without being physically tormented.
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Where does it say that in the bible?
Come on, it's in a part that is allegory, unless a literal interpretation serves their needs better in a different argument!
If your body dies and your soul survives, how do you feel physical torment?
Oh, that's right - God can do anything and he chooses to be a sick fuck.
If Satan is PURE evil, but in Hell there are different punishments for different crimes - doesn't that mean there is Godly rule and presence there?
Oh...yeah...what a nice consolation. An eternity in solitairy confinement.
You really don't see how EVIL your god is, do you?
The Apocalypse of Peter (not to be confused with the gnostic Apocalypse of Peter) that was not canonized for what many to be believed to be political reasons, gives detailed accounts of Hell but nice try, really.
This quote has been taken out of context to make it look like I'm advocating child cruelty. Why don't you put up the entire quote, where I said that this was only speculation based on some things I had read in the Bible, and that I hadn't researched the issue and wasn't sure if this was Biblically correct or not. I was merely suggesting that there might be different levels of punishment in hell, depending on the particular sins that a person committed during their life. I think it's possible, for instance, that Hitler would receive a much steeper punishment than Gandhi.
"This quote has been taken out of context to make it look like I'm advocating child cruelty."
But that is child cruelty, what you posted. And you're speculating that God imposes this punishment. And everything God does is right and just - yes?
Let's just cut to the answer. No, it's not.
This is entirely a Catholic concept rooted in the idea that God couldn't possibly punish good people who lived good lives but weren't Christians. But there is absolutely nothing Biblical about it.
MK, you're probably right. There's room for appropriate speculation, but I may have taken it too far. I think the Bible is pretty clear that the just punishment given to all sinners (regardless of age, race, or types of sin committed during life) is eternal torment in a literal lake of fire. I apologize for bringing doctrinal confusion to the board. Will you forgive me?
MessianicServant, if you indeed are a Poe, then you're doing a great job of intentionally giving fundamentalist Christians an even worse name. So please, shut the fuck up. It'd be funny if you'd break character every once in a while, but since you aren't, it's practically propaganda. You don't like it when it's done to you, so get over yourself and stop doing it to others.
If, on the other hand, you are an actual Christian who honestly believes and considers these ideas, then you have the mind of a sociopath and I really hope you never get off your ass to demonstrate your horrible, horrible truth. Please, don't ever have children, for their sake and everyone else's. Please, never mention Jesus again, as you're tainting an already controversial name. If you truly believe in him and his truth, please, do your church a favor and shut up before you scare anybody else away. Certainly, by your belief, that kind of act can only lead you to Hell - though I fear you'd fit in too comfortably, with a mind built for torment.
If you don't understand where I'm coming from (feel free to ask), then you truly are lost, no matter your affiliation.
Messianic, no one took your quote out of context. You advocate that as a reasonable punishment for "children who died in their sins," & it's child cruelty. Ergo, your quote advocates child cruelty.
And I'm going to say this slowly so that I don't overstate it:
If the first words...out of your pastor's mouth...were not...'leave them alone'...I hope he goes to jail...for molesting you.
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umm..it says nothing about that in the bible, therefore you are promoting heresy just to make yourself feel better about your god.
Fact is, and Jesus said it himself, if you dont accept christ as savior then you go to hell.
Of course I think the bible is bull.. but its your stupid religion and not mine.
Any punishment that involves the word "eternal" is unjust. This guy doesn't just stop there though, he brings in other words and phrases like "unimaginable pain", "isolation", "beaten", and "insatiable apetite."
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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