The whole global warming scandal proves how dishonest scientist can be. I bet a lot of you believed in this fairytale cause a scientist told you so. So you accepted it without question. It makes you wonder how much cherry picking and manipulation ha been done in evolution. Somehow how I bet it would be at the top of that list.
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So we're supposed to believe a bunch of misleading, sensationalist talk show hosts inventing a scandal from a couple of emails taken out of context... instead of thousands and thousands of scientists and peer-reviewed research studies?
Forgive me if I don't immediately jump on your bandwagon.
Ok, global warming and Evolution are two distinct topics. Logic and content FAIL.
Yes, I believe that regions of Antartica are melting much faster than ever before causing huge chunks of ice to break away (some pieces are the size of Rhode Island). I believe the climate is changing in the Artic circle because it's having a direct impact on the people who live there.
I hardly believe that's accepting it without question. Dogma's your game.
Nope,global warming is still happening.Sorry people actually care there's a planet left behind for the next generation.
Evolution is still a fact and theory.
What about all the cherry-picking of the bible,both old and new testament?Or maybe the lies creationist tell?
Global warming or not.
We should not gobble up the planet's resources like locusts.
We must savor every drop of oil and minimize waste, so that your God doesn't decide to throw in some horsemen to bomb us back to the stone age or worse, extinction.
Actually, I was skeptical of the whole global warming issue to begin with, and I think the jury's still out on anthropological global warming. But there's far more evidence to support this than the fairy tale of Christianity.
Nah, I looked up all the info I could, checked some of my sources and made my conclusions. I have a brain and an education and I used them.
What did you use, silver?
"I bet a lot of you believed in this fairytale cause a scientist told you so. So you accepted it without question."
What was that noise? It sounded like millions of irony meters going super nova simultaneously all over the world.
The scandal proves that scientists are human beings. The scandal proves that there were some scientists who did things that they should not have. It also proves that the media is prone to latch onto a few emails out of thousands and take them out of context. It does nothing to discount the work of all scientists. It calls into question the integrity of those scientists involved.
Which is not to say that what was done by those scientists at East Anglia University was not despicable or that other scientists shouldn't investigate into it. It was despicable. The scientific method is the best way we have of finding out about the world and to subvert that or call that into question is despicable in the highest degree.
But the actions of a few scientists does not call into question all scientists and all reasearch and data gathered by all scientists everywhere.
If there is a lesson to be learned from "Climategate", in my opinion, it is this:
SCIENCE SHOULD NOT BE POLITICIZED!
Global warming is a lie. The planet has been cooling for a decade. That's what climate does. It changes. This has never had anything whatever to do with science. This is the result of an anti-capitalist agenda warping the minds of stupid people. What you need to understand about catastrophic man made global warming is that it isn't catastrophic, it isn't man made, it isn't global and it isn't warming.
I noted last week that NASA reports hottest June to October on record, but the figure and monthly data (here) reveal several other interesting things:
This year is currently on track to be the 5th warmest year on record, but, in fact, if the monthly temperature anomaly (compared to the 1951 to 1980 average) stays near where it has been for the last two months, then 2009 will surpass 2007 as the second hottest year on record.
If November's anomaly is the same as the anomaly for the last two months, then November will tie for the hottest November in the temperature record.
If the average temperature anomaly during 2010 is only as high as it?s been from June to October of this year, then 2010 will roughly tie for the hottest year on record.
We'll know about the first two above within a few weeks.
What makes recent record temps especially impressive is that we're at "the deepest solar minimum in nearly a century," according to NASA.? It's just hard to stop the march of anthropogenic global warming, well, other than by reducing GHG emissions, that is.
Back in January, NASA had predicted: "Given our expectation of the next El Nino beginning in 2009 or 2010, it still seems likely that a new global temperature record will be set within the next 1-2 years, despite the moderate negative effect of the reduced solar irradiance."
Then, back in early June NOAA put out El Nino Watch, which I noted meant that "record temperatures are coming and this will be the hottest decade on record."
http://climateprogress.org/2009/11/24/nasa-hottest-year-on-record-2009-2005-2007/
Well I have anecdotal evidence of global warming, but even if Global warming is false, even if it is just the natural warming and cooling of the earth, what the hell makes you think that it's okay to breath yellow air?
Fuck Global Warming, lets do something about global air quality, if we get that under control I'm pretty sure it will help any man made warming problems better than a bunch of idiots on vacation in Copenhagen did.
Let's see:
The poles are thawing
There's no evidence against it (Not the same, not colder)
Scientists have compiled the statistics, facts and projected outcomes that are occuring (glacial retreat, changing weather patterns, changing ocean currents, etc)
Those against it aren't qualified, often religious or in the pockets of big pollutors
Yep, when I want to know something I should ignore experts and listen to the church or those with alterior motives
Even if no group of politicians supports the idea of "us dooming this planet".
Don't think politics is the keystone in global warming.
"I'm starting with man in the mirror."
- Michael Jackson's "Man in The Mirror"
So long as there are environmentally conscious people, the will and effort to reduce or prevent the effects of global warming won't end in some election, conference, or debate.
1859
Tyndall discovers that some gases block infrared radiation. He suggests that changes in the concentration of the gases could bring climate change.
1859
Darwin publishes Origin of Species
They both published in 1959, it must be a conspiracy!!
Well, that or Silversteinzero is a lying, retarded pile of shit.
Global climate change. Some places will be warmer, others will be wetter.
For those who say "what could a few degrees up or down matter?", just imagine that you have a fever. That's also just a few degrees up, but it makes you very ill, doesn't it?
Regardless of whether we caused it or not, let's make sure we're not making it worse. Let's be Stewards of the Earth, like that Bible book tells us to. Let's make the world a better place for all of us, and for our children and grandchildren especially.
Fairytale? Cherry picking? Manipulation?
You people are world champions at all of those. Compared to you, the rest of us are as out of our depth in those departments as a Fiat Uno in a Formula 1 race.
Global Climate Change is not up for debate, it's a definite fact. The debate is about how much of it is caused by humans, and if there is still time to turn it around and reduce our impact on the world.
We accepted it WITH questions; that is what the peer review process is all about, silly.
Cherry picking is what made the Bible as you know it. It's called the First Council of Nicaea.
Then King James did a couple of manipulations, and out came what is called The KJV.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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