it wasso funny when it happened in the anti-tobacco group, Ajay came in, endorsing his pro-life group, anti-smoking rights pro-choicers got at him, very funny. "I can do what i want with my body." from "Don't you dare smoke a cirgatte." so hilarious. i can appreciate that now that i am a libertarian.
[So does this mean you're pro-choice now?]
helll bleeping no, it's rather a long explanation on how i work my pro-life values into my libertarian philosophy.
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Well, let me tell you something, as a pro-life and anti-smoker, I am going to make a punctualitation. It´s your body, and somebody else´s too.
So you believe that everyone should take care of themselves and do things their own way (libertarianism), but shouldn't be allowed to abort?
While laughing at the people who are pro-choice who object to you smoking near them (which impacts them as well as you)?
Are you really a libertarian, or just a republican who decided to call themselves libertarian because it sounded cooler?
"it wasso funny when it happened in the anti-tobacco group, Ajay came in, endorsing his pro-life group, anti-smoking rights pro-choicers got at him, very funny. "I can do what i want with my body." from "Don't you dare smoke a cirgatte." so hilarious."
The pro-choice/anti-abortion question is nothing like the anti-smoking issue. I don't think any of us are advocating outlawing smoking. We just want smokers to have to take their smoking to places where it doesn't endanger or bother non-smokers.
"i can appreciate that now that i am a libertarian."
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[So does this mean you're pro-choice now?]
"helll bleeping no, it's rather a long explanation on how i work my pro-life values into my libertarian philosophy."
Indeed. I bet it's a long and twisted rationalization. "Pro-life" is a hard position to support from a Libertarian point of view.
@Papabear
Indeed. I bet it's a long and twisted rationalization. "Pro-life" is a hard position to support from a Libertarian point of view.
Papabear says it all.
@TammyFaye
i don't know, it seems now that libertarians are the new "closet republicans." at least, to me.
I disagree. I consider myself closer to libertarian than either liberal or conservative, but I'd almost universally pick a Democrat over a Republican in a heartbeat. Unless you're saying that a lot of Republicans call themselves "libertarian" when they aren't even close.
There is something to be said for anti-smoking laws in public places, since second-hand smoke is harmful to others. I'm not entirely convinced that it should be a matter of law (personally, for bars and such I think it makes more sense for the bar owners to decide for themselves - some places might want to cater to smokers, others might want to provide an atmosphere for non-smokers who want to avoid second-hand smoke), but I can at least see the reasoning behind it.
I'm a libertarian. And pro-abortion (I hate loaded terms). This guy is nuts.
However, I am against restrictive smoking laws. My research of the experiments done to test the harm of smoking have shown that second-hand smoking is not nearly bad enough to make it a public health issue. Most experiments have shown no statistically significant evidence that second-hand smoking is even harmful at all. Most people are against it because they don't like the smell. Which I sympathize with because I HATE people smoking around me (I'm also an asthmatic, so yeah).
I'm sick of hearing that word, "pro-life", as if it were opposed to "pro-death".
Being contrary to letting someone choose about her abortion is not "pro-life" in my opinion, it's more like being "anti-choice".
@MK
I've often wondered why the anti-abortion crowd isn't pushing to make it illegal for pregnant women to drink, smoke, etc. during pregnancy. Damn you. Don't give them ideas. You know that they really cannot come up with ideas on their own.
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