(Redwolf47)
You guys ever feel like it’s impossible?

They told me if I get buff girls will want me. All that did was make guys impressed.

They told me if I changed my hair they would love me. All that did was add 20$ a week to my expenses.

They told me if I dressed well I’d be irresistible. All that did was make me broke.

They told me if I was confident they would fall for me. All that did was make me arrogant.

They told me if I acted tough they’d respect me. All that did was make me soft on the inside.

They told me to be myself. All that did was reveal my true failure.

Honestly no reason to try anymore.

(Belis_Atreides)
But have you tried being vulnerable? Because all that did for me was get me mocked and taken advantage of.

How comes? This is against all I thought to have learnt.

Edit: Sorry for the dumb question. I mistranslated it at first.

I was never raised to be anything other than progressive and respectful toward women, it has not advanced me an inch with gaining their interest for relationships. However, I'm willing to accept I was possibly acting in the Nice Guy^TM way in the beginning, because waaaaay back then I didn't know better. But after that course correction, it still didn't matter.

I noticed a trend with most women, from most walks of life: they want MEN

Not just in the CHad sense of the world, though not discounting that importance - they want men who are traditionally masculine. Although, they rarely came out and admitted it. Among their friends and people who they wish to curry favor with, they'll say what many here always say - and then proceed to get involved with traditional rugged and masculine men that continually hurt them.

Also, whenever they complain about men not meeting standards, like men who've approached them in the past - and even some of these bad boys - they'll attack their masculinity when they show vulnerability. "I don't want to be their mommy" is a phrase I've heard frequently. "I don't want to be their shoulder to cry on all the time"

A popular belief in red pill communities is about how men need to be a solid rock, or break wall in a woman's tumultuous sea of emotions. She wants to crash into it and know for certain it's there for support. Kinda cringe sounding, but I've seen more than enough women complain when this isn't the case.

(BraisedBuster)
Women do not care for emotional connection that exposes weakness. What are Chad features, height, facial structure, dick size? Testosterone. Masculinity. Emotional vulnerability does not correlate.

(giantillusion)
Girls honestly believe men don't show feelings because they don't have them. I already had multiple girls telling me and being shocked when I told them that's wrong

(KingBowser24)
I've gotten to the point where I can talk to girls without creeping them out or being ghosted. But, I can never make it to boyfriend.

-Some girls call me a dick for acting confident and tough

-Others think im too soft when i show emotion.

Ive had girls tell me both of these things- "Show more emotion" and "Act a little manlier"

like wtf guys lmao

(Liptusg)

It’s almost like women are multiple people with idiosyncratic tastes and there’s no perfect combo that pleases them all.

It's almost like there are combos which please them all belonging to the men perceived as the most attractive in our culture, and combos which don't like OP's who is still an incel for that reason. Whatever each woman has said, none of them would show romantic interest.

(KosmicMalware)
Cause normie advice is just that. Normie advice. Once you try all of it you realise you're one of us and not a normie. It would work for some awkward 5/10 unkempt kid. Not us.

Shitty thing about this, is unlike work or some regular task, you can't just put in X amount of effort and self-improvement to succeed. Your success is entirely dependant on a secondary party somehow wanting you over all the millions of other options available.

(Salusa-Secundus)

With all of these, you did them for others, not for yourself... That's the issue. When you do things for yourself, others will admire you.

Lmao, people say "fake it till you make it" all the time. There a no winning with you people. None at all.

People aren't fucking psychic.

That's why you need to figure out for yourself how to play the game. Most people are insecure, if you get rid of that you are already so many steps ahead of the rest. Then you figure out what YOU want and how YOU get it, instead of making twists and turns in order to get someone to do something for you or 'grant' you something like love or whatever. It's all a big fucking joke, realise it and rise above

Edit: spelling

"Most people are insecure" works for them, doesn't it?

How is angry AND insecure working for u lmao

Lots of people are both too. Look at people getting worked up over politics and religion.

What isn't working out for me is my face.

(Liptusg)
Incels want girlfriends for themselves. Are incels admired yet?

The object of desire needs a specific approach for its harness. Subtlety, self-improvement and self-respect is a miss amongst incels.

What if I don't want subtlety, your idea of self-improvement and self-respect for myself? I thought we aren't supposed to do things for others? And I also thought that women aren't a hivemind?

I know plenty of women with no subtlety, self-improvement or self-respect who have no trouble attracting male partners.

What others attract or not, is not your game. Improve your own game.. If you don't want to self-improve or respect your self, then ruin is your own.

Do you think you're Master Yoda or something? Most of your history consists of one-liners, I don't think you'd be the first person anyone should attempt a logical discourse with.

Improve your own game

My own game is just as I want to be. And you said I shouldn't do things for others.

If you don't want to self-improve

I'm feeling fine as it is except for the absence of a romantic interest.

or respect your self

I respect myself, maybe others don't, but you said we shouldn't be someone else for the sake of others. Stay on track my friend.