The earth is the center of the universe. We cannot see that now, because we are in a temporal state where it is not apparent to the eye. I would certainly think that when God moves here, and the new earth appears, it will be crystal clear. I also wonder if it was in the past. Did the universe revolve around us?! I am inclined to think it may have, as it may again.
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oh dad. NO, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no and no!
I don't know what kind of temporal state you're always in, but maybe you should lay off the LSD.
Well, the earth *is* the center of the observable universe ... because the distance that we can observe is limited by the inverse-square law (brightness vs. distance) and by the speed of light. But since we can't see to the edge of the universe, we don't know where the edges are. All we know is that we're at least some ridiculous number of light-years from the edge in all directions (if, indeed, there is an edge).
"The earth is the center of the universe."No, no we are not. There is no center of the universe, or, you could say that everywhere is the center of the universe. Either way, the earth is in no particularly special center point in the universe.
"We cannot see that now, because we are in a temporal state where it is not apparent to the eye."
Uh huh. So, we must deny the observable and measurable, because you, dad, say so?
"I would certainly think that when God moves here, and the new earth appears, it will be crystal clear."
That just proves that you certainly do NOT think. If your imaginary friend DOES move here and "the new earth appears," you be sure to drop me a note. I'd be interested to see that.
"I also wonder if it was in the past. Did the universe revolve around us?! I am inclined to think it may have, as it may again."
Isn't that the point you've been trying to make all along?
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It sounds to me like dad got bored with his own explanation and just sort of lost interest. First the earth is the center of the universe, then he thinks it was , but in the future may be again, which means it is not now. Wow, what logic.
One of two things is true. Either we ARE the exact centre of the universe and everything else is receding from us
Tim, that depends on whether or not you class the site of the big bang as the centre of the universe. Given that's at least 400 billion, trillion light years from here due to hyperinflation and the homologous nature of the universe, ummmm NO!
If you're going to be like that, there was possibly no there before it happened, but the mathematics does hold up back to a trillionth of a second after it occurred and the temperature was 1x10^39K. From a certain point of view it's still happening which is why the microwave radiation is still detectable and even the coldest portions of space are still over 2 Kelvins. If you're going to argue that space time expanded with hyperinflation etc and did not exist before hand, then the site of the big bang is the entire universe and all matter is the centre of the universe, but oddly I think we can scale that with a little more detail now.
Wishful thinking. If it was ever so, and were going to be so again, there'd be no sane reason for it not to be so now. And it's not. So, why back then, and sometime soon, but not now?
We cannot see that now, because we are in a temporal state where it is not apparent to the eye. I would certainly think that when God moves here, and the new earth appears, it will be crystal clear.
Didn't you get that message from the skydaddy which he sent sometime ago where he said that, "If you break this earth, I ain't getting you a new one". And in the rare event that this "gawd" does make another earth, why the fuck would he want to be back on this old one which you fundies have fucked up beyond any recognition. And where is this new earth gonna appear? If it get any closer than the geosynchronous distance and revolve like those satellites, folks will be floating mid air due to gravitational equilibrium and the whole moon would collapse on one of the two earths, bada-bing.
Crap, why am I getting so scientific!
I also wonder if it was in the past. Did the universe revolve around us?!
Before Galileo, it certainly did. Then suddenly things went crazy and the earth had to revolve around sun and the sun around some bigass star in the milkyway and so forth. That's why they put his ass in jail. (I guess what I just said would make perfect sense on Christian Forums, don't wanna give more fuel to their imagination...must stop here).
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