We have the names of the women, the twelve disciples and other people (parents, spouses, Jewish Sanhedrin members, people cured of disease, Simon of Cyrene etc)- maybe not their addresses (unless you count the places they are identified as coming from). Presumably if these people were made up, the gospels would have been exposed as fabrications. It seems safe to say there were eyewitnesses.
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first, I think the bible contain different accounts about the names and the locations.
try harder.
Many fiction books have characters with the same names as real people, either intentionally or just coincidentally. Many also use historical figures, either as characters or to set a scene. As has been pointed out, the gospels themselves don't always agree, even on events critical to the basis of your religion, such as the Crucifixion and Resurrection.
They themselves, or their endorsements, may have been made up completely. Even if the gospel writers were telling the truth as they knew it, it could have been "I got it from a friend, who was told by a traveler, who heard it from his cousin, whose mother's friend heard it in the marketplace". We have better information sources now and "film at eleven", yet still tall tales abound. And since they're not here to testify, that counts for nothing.
There are eyewitnesses to the bible because the bible says there were eyewitnesses to the bible, so the bible must be true because there are eyewitnesses.
Yet another example of what counts as "logic" in Fundiville.
"people cured of disease"
...and James Randi's JREf Foundation $1 Million Prize still goes unclaimed to this day.
@anevilmeme
There's a guy who works down the chip shop that swears he's him. X3
It seems safe to say there were eyewitnesses.
So, show me all their independent accounts of what they saw.
And in that same vein, all those people who saw the dead rise at the time that christ did have been thoroughly documented in many, many places. After all, such a thing would be impossible to miss, wouldn't it?
Oh wait. That was just in one bible verse, and NO OTHER source??
Philip Jose Farmer wrote some of the later adventures of 30s pulp hero Doc savage, he also wrote essays later collected showing an obvious connection to many other characters of the time, such as Tarzan, captain Nemo and nearly every major pulp hero up to the fifties.
Why?
He of course only suggested this carried an iota of evidence that any could be real but it was a brilliant attempt to do so and just enough to keep the fans in a hopeful state that one of these adventures could really occur.
I bring this up as a Doc Savage and Sherlock Holmes fan AND to point out that one or more of their tales could have actually occurred unlike A Midsummers Dream, The Odyssey or The Book Of Genesis.
We have the names of the characters from L.A. Confidential, and corroborating historical evidence for some of them, like Mickey Cohen, therefore Ed Exley really existed
I recently read something in an article about airplanes (I think it was on TVTropes.)
“Everyone who investigates accidents involving landing planes will tell you that there will always be two things happening while interviewing eyewitnesses: At least one witness will tell you that the plane was already burning before it touched down and at least one other will tell you that the engine or engines did stop working before the accident. This is especially true for planes built from non-flammable materials and gliders without any engines.” (paraphrased).
There is a reason cops and courts are very skeptical of eyewitness’ accounts without any corroborating evidence.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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