[Shows us an article on cnn.com that reads: "Dinosaurs coexisted with their ancestors"]
[Reads beginning:] "Dinosaurs shared the Earth for millions of years with the species that were their ancestors, a new study concludes." [There seems to be a lot more to the article, but he doesn't read that.]
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a couple of months ago somebody posted a link to a video where a man is running from a T-Rex. The man falls and the T-Rex starts to lick him and play. They're saying the T-Rex was vegetarian. I'm assuming people that live in the real world mentioned the human race may have been wiped out because they would have been a food source. But no......the mighty T-Rex ate veggies. Let's change science to fit in with Genesis!
MySLJ: your "tell-tale signs of a fairytale" refers to Genesis. Tell me....how have evolutionists managed to hide their theory after many years? Humans can't comprehend millions of years? That's the reason YOU GUYS believe the earth is 6,000 yrs. old at the most......you can't or rather refuse to study science and I mean the real thing. You have little or no basic understanding of the most basic biology, chemistry, natural science, astronomy, geology, etc. Go read something other than that Hovid guy and your Bible.
Elphaba: aka cronenurse....or rather was
He goes on about how CNN's "Dinosaurs coexisted with their ancestors" proves that the geologic column is wrong. Scientists had hypothesized that an early Triassic proto-dinosaur was extinct by the time the first mid-Triassic true dinosaurs appeared. They based this on their best evidence from Argentina. Then they discovered a mid-Triassic fossil of the proto-dinosaur in New Mexico. So it was still alive after the first mid-Triassic true dinosaurs appeared. So because an animal was still alive 10 million years after we thought it was extinct (but still within the Triassic), we should throw away the whole geologic column and accept the "Flood geology" crap. I wonder what he would have made out of the coelacanth, which was thought extinct at the end of the Cretaceous and turned up alive and well in 1938!
The abstract of the actual story is in Science Magazine (CNN has deleted it), but you'll need to sign up (free) to access the full text.
BTW, the New Mexico findings were based on radiometric dating. Apparently, radiometric dating only works when it gives results creationists like.
"because they know the human mind can't comprehend millions of years all that well."
Maybe YOUR mind can't comprehend it. Are you saying you can comprehend living for eternity in la-la land but not millions of years ago? Is it just an aversion to the past?
VFX is a smug, arrogant little shit who obviously thinks he's superior to others by virtue of his beliefs. He doesn't have anything worthwhile to say. On any subject.
The only other fundie YT user whose blatant, self-righteous sanctimony surpasses that of VFX is Jezuzfreek777.
"Truly a gruesome twosome of irritation."
[You see, the evolutionists have to hide their preposterous theory...]
I wish you guys would make up your minds already. One day you're complaining that evolution is brazenly taught in schools, the next, you're saying that it's being snuck in.
[...behind miiillions and biiilions of years because the tell-tale signs of a fairytale are "looong ago, and far away" and...]
Sort of like "In the beginning..." ?
[...that's where they hide their theory...]
What, exactly, is "hidden" about the ToE? It's all open to discussion, per the scientific method. All you need is some knowledge of the subject matter...
[...because they know the human mind can't comprehend millions of years all that well. ]
Speak for yourself.
Ah yes, that doyen of the peer-reviewed science literature, CNN. Not.
Irmis and Nesbitt's finds have increased the overlap between dinosaur and non-dinosaur genera by several million years, hence serves as a counter-example to the hypothesis that dinosaurs rose rapidly to prominence in the mid-Triassic by virtue of out-competing their non-dinosaur rivals.
It is not true that this find shows that dinosaurs coexisted with their ancestors, any more than finding a skeleton of a gorilla and a human side by side would. What has been found is not an ancestor of the dinosaurs, it is a non-dinosaur which shares a common ancestor with them.
Randy Irmis' was actually foresighted enough to produce a FAQ about it. Pay particular attention to the "What our paper DOES NOT say" section. I wish CNN had.
http://socrates.berkeley.edu/
Picture a three-way conversation between the fossil record, personified as a professional musician; a researcher, played by a music-mag interviewer; and our old buddy Venomtongue:
Interviewer: "So you started playing the banjo, quit that to play bass in a hair-metal band, and years later became an organist?"
Musician: "Sort of. The sequence is right, but I actually kept messing around on the banjo for a while even after I joined the band."
VenomfangX: "AH-HA! Caught you! Your confusion over when you played what obviously demonstrates that you've NEVER played ANYTHING, and have only used the banjo-bass-organ fantasy to cover up the FACT (which I got from my 2,000-year-old book of unrelated gibberish) that all music is produced by an invisible fairy! You've just been pretending to play instruments in order to make my sky-fairy mad!"
Interviewer and musician: "You're off your meds again, aren't you?"
"the human mind can't comprehend millions of years all that well."
You don't get to count as human, because you're too fucking stoopid. Seriously, you can't even wrap your 'brain' around "Shit takes a long fucking time, man."
Hasn't VenomFangX had his ass handed to him in court and been forced to recant on YouTube? Or am I mixing the fundies with each other?
We don't have to look at millions of years to show evidence for evolution; we can look at last year's influenza virus and this year's virus. Or the nylon-eating bacteria; nylon hasn't been around for "miiillions and biiilions of years".
VenomfangX was hoping to get rich off of Hovinds act, take his place after Kent got locked up for tax evation. I haven't seen anything he's used as a creation claim that Hovind didn't take from someone else first except Kents origional bullshit which Venomfangx also used.
He filled a false claim against a rebuttler of his YouTube crap and requested money for a new camera with the promise of donating the surplus to Sick Childrens hospital. He of course was lying and keeping it all, his parents got wind of it finally and stopped his campaign of stupid.
You can tell from the videos he's an upper class silver-spooned little shit as he's living in a huge well-appointed and furnished house.
Oh, and he did try the Coelacanth argument, just like Kent, and the Loch Ness Monster argument too.
"You see, the evolutionists have to hide their preposterous theory" tl;dr...
You see, you were pwned by Thunderf00t, VenomfagX. Everything you say, do, and think is invalid. Just three words completely annihilates not just your argument, but your right to be on the internets in perpetuity:
Sick Kids Hospital.
@Canadiest
It appears he's also wasted a perfectly good opportunity for a college education. Shawn went on hiatus from youtube after the whole false DMCA and false accusations against dprjones (accusing him of being a pedophile- ironically as dprjones was one of the few people who would defend the little ingrate). It appears he's back on youtube, and as many would have guessed, instead of actually studying in college, he wasted his time indulging in peddling his bull on campus and completely ignoring lessons on logic, reason, and science. Such a waste.
Ridiculous enough to be entertaining. But in a way, this goes hand in hand with their own beliefs. Their holy scripture, for instance, must have a primordial value, or it couldn't be used as an origin myth. Infering from ignorance of science, a simplist view is that science too just values its myths. False equivalence, of course, since the latter doesn't start from conclusions, but derives them from observation and evidence.
Confused?
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