Atheists r people who do not love logic because 4 me it's not logical 2 think that something as complex as universe and life in it - that works precisely according 2 laws of mathematics, physics, etc. like in a clockwork - was created by itself and by chance in that. And scientists cannot create even the simplest living organism in their laboratories, like a bacterium 4 instance. so tell me, how did living matter originate from non-living one? Also by pure chance? Dont make me laugh!
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In 1959 a scientist created the basic building blocks of life-amino acids-in a beaker in his laboratory.
Now scientists say they are a few years away from creating and actual bacterium.
So, considering humans did in 50 years what evolution did in a billion, it's not bad.
Atheists r people who do not love logic because 4 me it's not logical 2 think that something as complex as universe and life in it
Sorry, people who are to lazy to type a few extra letters (are, for, to) don't have valid opinions.
-pb
Once you accept the argument of coincidence, it's amazing how common coincidences are. It's all about perception. The real question you need to ask is whether humans are the pinnacle of the universe - when you realize that we aren't exactly the metaphorical or literal center, it makes the random theory more understandable. But since the Judeo-Christian religion is patently anthrocentric, it's difficult to move away from that.
2 cool 4 skool? First, try writing real words. People will actually take you seriously that way. Second, the laws of mathematics and physics were written through observation...not even mentioned in the bible. So to say God created the universe around man made laws is absurd to say the least, and at worst, extraordinarily hubris. Third, why is chance so hard to believe?! Is it really that unthinkable that we're the product of "right place, right time?" Did we really have to be blinked into existence from dirt (non-living to living, courtesy of Genesis, by the way.)
Scientists never claim to have all the answers...at least none that are worth their salt. Hence why they ARE in their laboratories. They're learning. Observing. Trying to figure things out. Not just hiding behind a book from the big scary world.
so tell me, how did living matter originate from non-living one?
Gene, this statement alone proves your ignorance of science. What you are asking for in that statement is what scientists refer to as spontaneous generation . This was disproven in the 15th century. Therefore, this does not help whatever point that you are trying to make at all.
Your spelling skills make me wonder if your sources are reliable. Anyway, the world doesn't work like a clockwork, depends what you consider a clock, and, well, tell me what chance is. And man, people can't create other organic being but we can SYNTHESISE certain substances so, what's the point?
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Well then, you're wrong. Jumping to the Goddidit solution is not logical.
While mutation is random, natural selection is not. Evolution is not random it is simply not intelligently directed. There's a big difference.
I do not intend to make you laugh, but it would be great if you could shut up until you know what you're talking about.
The laws of mathematics, etc. were devised around the universe, not the other way around. We attempt to understand the world, and we devise ways to understand what is there.
it's not logical 2 think that something as complex as universe and life in it ... was created by itself and by chance in that.
So "I personally can't believe evolution is true so it must be false" is logical? I thought that was called the "argument from personal incredulity" fallacy.
[sarcasm]Right, and that's why mathematics uses numbers like pi and e and i which are so rational and logical and just plain common sense. And never mind how contorted a molecular diagram can be. [/sarcasm] Here's a tip, the structure in the universe isn't that simple. You're going to argue from ignorance and I'm going to say that an intelligent being wouldn't make the universe work on such a haphazard level. The more I learn about chemistry the more I see that even though the world operates according to certain rules, these rules aren't organized and perfect.
there are many "states" of matter, solids, liquids, gases, and plasmas; Less familiar states include Bose-Einstein condensates and fermionic condensates; there are a host of other states all defined by particular Quantum attributes of the material. I don't think there is a state of matter known as "Living". I don't even know what "non-living " matter is.
I give you 1 out of 10 for trying.
So, it's inconceivable that something as complex as the universe could just exist, but an omnipotent, omniscient God can?
Fundies observing the universe: It's so friggin amazing! And we don't fully understand it! God must be responsible!
7000 odd years ago...
Cavepeople observing lightning: It's so friggin amazing! And we don't fully understand it! The gods must be responsible!
And the difference is?
(Oh, and scientists are working on it. We'll get there eventually. That's the cool thing about science. We tend to figure things out with time.)
So... it is logical to believe it was all made by your imaginary friend? We use evidence, not faith. Big difference.
We created the laws of universe to fit the evidence and the observations, not the other way around.
Umm, hello? Anybody home in the hollow you call a head? Man created the clock! All those little gears, cogs and such? We did it, not goddidit.
Oh and yeah, scientists have created life in a lab
English mothe ...
Oh never mind.
And scientists cannot create even the simplest living organism in their laboratories, like a bacterium 4 instance. so tell me, how did living matter originate from non-living one? Also by pure chance? Dont make me laugh!
'Artificial life' breakthrough announced by scientists
Who's laughing now, bitch?
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Also, when you believe that all life was magically made out of abiotic mud, but then turn around and scream that life cannot come from non-life, without seeing (or in some cases, outright ignoring) the contradiction.
“Atheists r people who do not love logic”
“because 4 me it's not logical 2 think that something as complex as universe and life in it - that works precisely according 2 laws of mathematics, physics, etc. like in a clockwork - was created by itself and by chance in that.”
"And scientists cannot create even the simplest living organism in their laboratories, like a bacterium 4 instance. so tell me, how did living matter originate from non-living one?”
“Also by pure chance? Dont make me laugh!”
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