There is a great difference between catholic crusader heroes and infidel mass-murderers. Catholic crusaders such as Franco, Pinochet or Mugabe kill for a noble cause while infidel thugs like Lenin, Stalin or Mao Zedong kill for their own sake. Do not compare paladins with necromancers!
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So, killing so many people in Jerusalem (christians as well as muslims and jews, men as well as wmen and children) that the crusaders waded in blood is a noble task.
Killing an entire city during the albigensian crusades with the leader saying "Kill them all, god will know who belongs to him" is a noble deed, as well as (during the same crusade) blinding all survivors of a town and leaving only one person with one eye so he can lead all other people to the next city.
Either you are a Poe, or someone who would immediately instate hunts for witches and pagans "in the name of christ" as soon as he came to power in his country
A have a good friend from Chile and when she was a child in the 60-70's there Pinochet was the "president". The stories she tells are horrible. She is a devout Catholic and she never thought any of the things he did were noble.
Maybe, Zeth, you should have been made to live under one of these dictators and then you could let us know how wonderfully noble it is.
Necromancers?? Ok, dude, even if you were right and those guys killed just for the hell of it, you obviously have NO IDEA what necromancy is.
Now, having someone die and then getting some sort of power, protection, or other such thing by drinking their blood...that would qualify as necromancy. Sort of like holy communion...
What about King Phillip II and the Spanish Armada? Invading England in the name of the Catholic Church, and the deaths of thousands of English protestants it would've resulted in, would be a disgusting atrocity.
I cannot believe - no, seriously, I cannot BELIEVE FOR ONE FUCKING SECOND - that people like that, such as you, still exist TODAY. Not five hundred years ago, but TO-FUCKING-DAY.
Seriously, people, that's shocking and very sad.
Zeth, fuck off back to Spain or Italy, or wherever it is you come from. I hope you get raped by your beloved Pope.
Ciao!
The crusaders killed more christians than they did "infidels"
They also raped, tortured and commited acts of cannibalism in the name of a non-existant fucking god.
Rome was destroyed by chistianity, christianity is being destroyed by "christians" like Zeth.
And the quicker , the better.
wlof, can I borrow your robe and wizard hat?
There is a great difference between catholic crusader heroes and infidel mass-murderers.
There sure was! The crusaders had a big cross on their tabards and shields. Oh, and the infidels were smart enough to realize that heavy plate armor and chain mail don't work so well under a blazing desert sun.
How dumb do you have to be to put crosshairs on your soldiers?
So, the gist of it is "as long as he's with my religion, 's cool," ya? Dude... not even the grimmest caricatures I've seen of anything vaugely 'paladin'-like, at least in settings that also include necromancer-ish things, come close to measuing up with those 'crusader heroes.'
The more I think about it, the more I pray this is a case of the Good Old Edgar A.
Because Franco, Pinochet, and Mugabe and all their atrocities are ok. They killed and brutalized their populations for years, but its ok. They have JEBUS!!
This guy has to be a poe. There is nothing mentioning how Stalin and Mao were evil atheists and therefore their killings were so much worse than the Catholics'.
Franco died twice....
If you need to kill large groups of people, you are obviously doing something wrong.
I am all in favor of exterminating any politician, religious or otherwise, who gets too big for his britches. Kill the ringleaders, leave the millions of law-abiding citizens alone.
Since when did greed, torture, and eliminating peaceful opposition by murder become noble? I guess you consider Capone, Gambino, and Lucky Luciano true saints!
Necromancers have no alignment restrictions in 3rd Edition D&D. They could easily be lawful good.
And they have access to spells like Circle of Death, Animate Dead, Magic Jar, Wail of the Banshee, Finger of Death (powerful spell, despite the silly name), etc.
Franco, Pinochet, Lenin and Stalin actually - outside of war, naturally - knew whom and why they killed, unlike the pillaging murderers Mugabe and the crusader.
Mao was not as much a killer as an incompentent leader.
Franco, Pinochet or Mugabe...
I've always thought this guy was a Poe, now I seriously hope I'm right. Otherwise, this guy has issues.
Tell me that the bastard did not just defend Pinochet, the man that killed thousands in my country, divided millions in opinion, the man that left a wound in this country that might never heal.....
Franco, the man that terrorized spain Noble?
Mugabe, the amoral batard, noble?????
Who is this idiot and how do can I make him sterile, so that he has no offspring....
And the great cause is what exactly?, personal benefit?, a totalitarian state?. The moment you disobey the sixth commandment, you're not "noble" at all. And by the way, a necromancer is a guy who tells the future using corpses. I highly doubt atheists believe in that.
Remember kids, murder, genocide and other atrocities are wrong except when done by christians. Only when done by non-believers are such things bad. Unlike christians, non-believers think they can do anything they want and it can be justified.
If I remember right, he retracted saying that there is a detractor of him that has hijacked his personality on internet. I same, bullshit. It´s just that he can´t reconcile it with what Catholics ACTUALLY preach.
This is exactly the kind of sarcastic comment I would use to expose the hypocrisy among the fundies.
Good thing he noted that Franco was backed by the catholic church, too. It's the kind of thing people try and cover up.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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