*In responce to the first cause argument being debunked*
God exists outside of spacetime. He doesn't need a cause because he IS the cause. Read some physics... and not that prejudiced, liberal physics. Try some good, unbiased conservative scholars, like VenomFangX.
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Citing VFX as a legitimate source: Epic Phail.
Come on, idiot, that fool actually makes Hovind sound competent.
"Try some good, unbiased conservative scholars, like VenomFangX. "
I prefer doctors Howard, Fine and Howard myself.
VenomFangX? Scholar?
(dies laughing)
like VenomFangX.
Must be a poe.
"and not that prejudiced, liberal physics. Try some good, unbiased conservative scholars, like VenomFangX."
Oh, so you mean those "unbiased" *hint hint wink wink* physics....yes, I see
btw, how do physics have anything to do with god?
This isn't fun anymore. It's depressing. Either there are wildly talented trolls out there stirring up the passions of reasonable people, or there really are hordes of people this willfully ignorant ready to shoot their mouths off at any opportunity. It used to make me laugh. Then it started to make me sad. Now it just makes me feel hopeless.
If civilization is going to make a go at another millennium, it'll have to be in some way arm-in-arm with these clods and their childish myths. Anybody optimistic about this prospect turning out well?
Humanity looks doomed by its own stupidity, and here we all are in the midst, Cassandras yelling at the air. Ignorance really is bliss.
"God exists outside of spacetime. He doesn't need a cause because he IS the cause. "
So, basically, you're telling us that God created himself?
Yeah. That happened. </sarcasm>
Try some good, unbiased conservative scholars, like VenomFangX.
best laugh I've had all day!
In a conservative physics classroom, all weights are in pounds and all distances are in feet, because those are God's Chosen Units.
Plus, they kick you out if your hair's too long.
"Try some good, unbiased conservative scholars, like VenomFangX."
Because all the good scholars go by fake names, don't you know.
Though isn't saying he studies things from a conservative POV and that he's unbiased kind of contradicting yourself?
VenomFangX: "good, unbiased conservative scholars"
One of these things is not like the others. One of these things is true.
This isn't fun anymore. It's depressing. Either there are wildly talented trolls out there stirring up the passions of reasonable people, or there really are hordes of people this willfully ignorant ready to shoot their mouths off at any opportunity. It used to make me laugh. Then it started to make me sad. Now it just makes me feel hopeless.
good, unbiased conservative scholars, like VenomFangX
Try listening to your intellectual superiors. Like squirrels.
@ allkindsof
Don't give in to despair. Remember:
Kent Hovind is in jail.
It will definitely take time; superstitions die hard. But I have no doubt that within the next 2 centuries we will see the foolish and dogmatic religions grow frailer and more emaciated (at least in the West), and a great increase in real reason and evidence-based thinking. The internet is a wonderful thing.
Read some physics... and not that prejudiced, liberal physics. Try some good, unbiased conservative scholars, like VenomFangX
You lose, try again. Conservative is a bias, there is no such thing as liberal or conservative physics.
This is the most hilarious thing I've read since that fundy quote about how evolution required a giant source of energy for the Earth, and that if such a source existed, scientists would know about it.
"good, unbiased conservative scholars, like VenomFangX."
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Oh wait... you were serious!?
THAT'S EVEN FUNNIER!
Try some good, unbiased, expert scholars.
VenomFangX is neither; a scholar or unbiased
He is actually a bit of a dick! He has also been shown to be the dick he is. It's all there on youtubes. Howevr I suspect you only see what you want to see!
Oh, if we're going down THAT well-worn path (and this level of debate), okay. In that case, remember the Mayans? They were the first to invent & use '0' (Zero) in their numerical system. Therefore there was a cause BEFORE the 'First Cause': The ZERO Cause. Which means there was a being/deity BEFORE God (the 'First Cause'). Thus the Zero Cause created God. Which means the MINUS First Cause created the being who created God, the MINUS Second Cause created the MINUS First Cause, and so on into infinity. All of whom are superior beings to God (the 'First Cause'). Which means your 'First Cause' (God) is looking pretty pathetic eh, 180prayers? And if your 'First Cause' had a creator (the Zero Cause), therefore your 'God' is an inferior being, and not worthy of belief & worship. Ergo, Atheism.
QED.
And I suggest that also destroys the thinking behind the beliefs of a certain Canadian fundy spam monster who will remain nameless eh, fellow FSTDTers?
BTW, I notice said video (On YouPube) has been removed due to violation. For violating all laws of common sense, I presume?
good, unbiased conservative scholar? VenomFangX?
Hahahahaha!!!!
Okay, you get one out of four. He is conservative.
"unbiased conservative"
lol wut ?
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