you cannot go toe to toe on the God arguments. You will lose, but you will lnever admit because you can't be honest. You says it's mental illness to sure God exists. that's crazy. you are telling me that 2% of the poplulat know better than 98% of people living now and the vast majority of people who have ever lived. Its' part of our brain stucture to believe in God. That should tell us right here God is a certainty.
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Well, just last week there was a nice article on the evolution of religion, in the sense that our brains are triggered to believe in supernatural beings. It was not conclusive, as research may still take time, but one of the benefits of superstition may be a constant paranoia that keeps humans alert, amongst other things like better group coherence for religious folks, and so on.
I think a god that puts a hardwired belief in him into human brains upon creation looks like a pretty unconvincing god, though. Just a remark.
A. If you're talking about atheists or "nonbelievers," it's actually more like 15% to 25%. If you're talking about people who don't necessarily believe in the same God as you do, the number is a lot larger - in fact, it's probably a majority.
B. The majority of people who have ever lived didn't know how to make a smallpox vaccine. I'm willing to bet that a vast majority of of people living now also do not know how to make a smallpox vaccine. The people who do know how to make a smallpox vaccine, though they may be in a minority, *do* know better than the majority of people alive now and the vast majority of people who have ever lived. Your argument fails.
C. No, it is *not* part of our brain structure to believe in God. It's part of our brain structure to see agency where there is none. This comes from evolutionary adaptation - when in danger from predators and enemies, it is better to see agency where there is none than not to see agency where there is agency. In other words, seeing enemies that aren't there is a less dangerous mistake than failing to see enemies that are. When we see agency but cannot, in any rational or proven way, figure out where it's coming from, it leaves a blank. Some people feel the need to fill in that blank with a god concept.
Other people fill it in with powerful witches, aliens, or body thetans.
The argument you're giving implies that all of these things must exist, since it is equally part of our brain structure to believe in them as it is to believe in God.
Its' part of our brain stucture to believe in God. That should tell us right here God is a certainty.
Evidently god fucked up when he installed that thing and didn't specify which god it was supposed to point to, so it kinda flaps around randomly and battens onto the first religion you are exposed to.
If it is part of our brain structure why do you brainwash your children into believing what you believe in? Why not let them view everything for themselves and make their own decision so you can prove that people will indeed pick a belief in god if given a choice?
Anyway, Christains (which I assume you are one since you are posting on Carm in defense of "god") state that they know better than the vast majority of people who ever lived as they believe that no matter what others believe in they are wrong and Christians are right. For example, how large of a percent of people in Ancient Greece do you think believed in Zeus? We now know that they were wrong to do so, yet you ignore that and try to use them to claim that "god" (not a god or gods) is real. It's ridiculous logic.
you cannot go toe to toe on the God arguments.
Sure can.
You will lose,
No I won't.
but you will lnever admit because you can't be honest.
Except that it is the Christian apologists who more often than not lie for Jesus.
You says it's mental illness to sure God exists. that's crazy.
Mirror mirror on the wall.
you are telling me that 2% of the poplulat[ion] know better than 98% of people living now and the vast majority of people who have ever lived.
Are you telling me that argumentum ad populum is not a logical fallacy?
Its' part of our brain stucture to believe in God.
No it isn't.
That should tell us right here God is a certainty.
We believe it, therefore it is true. Good argument! Got any more?
Correct, I cannot "go toe - to - toe" with your god in an argument, as your god does not exist, so arguing with him is impossible.
Pick a religion, any religion. No more than a third of the people now living are even nominal adherents of that religion (let alone Truly Saved True Believers). Before that religion was founded, no one followed it at all. Care to rethink your appeal to the majority?
Argument ad populum (and a wrong one at that, if you take into account that there have been thousands of different interpretations for god), Fabricated statistics, outright lies, and non sequitur. You lose.
Well, maybe 70%-80% believe some god or gods exists. But there's no rational proof, and never has been for the last 2,500 years of trying. It's one thing to say "I believe in God" and let it go at that; it's another to claim it should be obvious to everyone else.
If 4,999,999,999 people on the Earth believe that stychnine won't kill you, and the 1 person left believes it will...guess which side is right?
Its' part of our brain stucture to believe in God.
NO
Our brain structure (Internal; synapse postitions) actually changes quite a bit in infancy and puberty,we are NOT hardwired to have belief in anything.
Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy, so your fail there too.
If everybody in a tribe were forced to read de Sade and nothing else, they would all believe that pain and humiliation are godly.
As it turns out, some tribes are forced to read the bible and nothing else. Add guilt and fear to the pain and humiliation.
It's all about the books you are forced to read.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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