I call Indians (the red ones) unemployed assholes.
There are way too many Indians around that do no work, and leech off of welfare and enjoy the fact that they don't have to pay taxes, just because they whine about how their "land" was wrongfully stolen from them and how their customs were destroyed, despite the fact that We made their life infinately better.
76 comments
Millions upon millions of people, reduced to a fraction of that number and living in pockets of land throughout the country that are smaller than the smallest of dots on a map. Yeah we made their life so much better. Tell that to their great grandparents who were killed so they could have a tv and a car.
You made my life infinitely better?
How exactly?
I work for the whiteman, and get passed over for promotion because i'm native.
most of my fellows cant even get that much because the white man usualy wont hire us,
Welfare is all they can get, and we arent even alowed to have fertile farmland, or sustainable hunting ranges, we are stuck on desolate reservations and told that our only hope of a better future is if we deny our own culture and conform to the paleface and his arrogant brutality, We get lied to by indian agents, and brutalized by the white legal system, and if we are lucky, we get a compassionate social worker who actualy helps us find a job flipping burgers for the whiteman,
You made our lives infinitely worse
Oh yeah, nothing like massacre or dispossesing people who, by the way, had assimilated to the whites, in terms of religion and so. And just for the record, unemployment touches all minorities and everybody who hasn´t a diploma. Should we proceed like that?. And sounds ironic that you say that they live infinitely better and then you admit that they´re unemployed. Make up your mind, man, or you´ll be in the non-contradiction award.
image
Gee, that doesn't seem fair to teh people who used to roam beyond the current borders of the United States. Looks like if all of the reservations were lumped together, then Native American Indians get about the equivalent of Idaho.
Closing of the frontier was just a quaint way of saying, 'Let's slaughter injuns'. Let's not forget, just like the bible god, it would be 'wrong' for women and children to be left alive, so they killed everyone down to the smallest infant. Sand Creek, Wounded Knee, the Trail of Tears. How exactly is being ravaged by greed, alcoholism, thievery, diseases like smallpox, the destruction of their homes, families, livlihood, hunting grounds, pride and humanity making their lives better?
I bet you bitch to no end if Walker texas ranger gets bumped for an inaugural address.
comraderedferret, YOU are what is wrong with America. I only wish I could spit in your doughy, spotty face you piece of parasite clogged amphibeous shit.
image
Algore Lib Nutcase I thought Native Americans ran casinos so that fat White Trash American pricks could go in and gamble their money away before heading home to beat the wife... gee sterotyping is fun
But ComradeRedFerret is right, surely everyone wants to live in a society where they are referred to as "the red ones" who wouldn't love that?!
I call Indians (the red ones) unemployed assholes.
I suppose that's fair enough. They likely call you a genocidal self-righetous redneck with delusions of grandeur. I know I do.
There are way too many Indians around that do no work, and leech off of welfare
As demonstrated by the fact that all American citizens on unemployment and welfare are Native American, right? Oh, wait. Less than 2% of them are. Got any other made up stuff you would like to share?
and enjoy the fact that they don't have to pay taxes,
No, you're thinking of Kent Hovind. Native Americans are taxpayers just like you (I assume) are. While it is true that Indian Reservations are not assessed property taxes, and non-profit tribal organizations are accorded the same tax-exempt status as any other non-profit group (like your church...), individual Native Americans pay as much taxes as you do. Every time they buy something, or get a paycheck, or do all the crap that you get taxed on, they, too, get taxed on. And while it is true that a Native American living on reservation land is not assessed the same property taxes as you likely are, would you want to live on Reservation land? If you ever want to see where the shittiest land in the USA is, get a government land-use map and look for the orange. Those are the Native American Reservations.
And the casinos? They pay the same taxes as any other for-profit business.
just because they whine about how their "land" was wrongfully stolen from them
It was.
and how their customs were destroyed,
They were.
despite the fact that We made their life infinately better.
Only if you consider abject, crushing poverty, alcoholism and drug addiction rates thirty times the national average, being virtually shut out of politics on a national level, suicide rates twenty times the national average, drop-out rates ten times the national average, living in cinderblock houses on dried-out hardpan dirt expanses, having your culture and racial identity systematically stripped from them,and assholes like you walking around calling them "red men," then I guess their life is better, isn't it?
the fact of the matter is that almost all of the Indian-owned and operated casinos are located on TRIBAL land, and are filled to the gills with INDIANS.
Cite, please? The one time I was in an Indian casino, nearly everyone there was
Caucasian.
Gambling their family's paychecks away....
What difference would it make if they did? The profits go to the tribe anyway.
Look, nutcase, I live in a town that has a large Native American population. Some of them are on welfare, just like some of the whites. Some of them are lawyers, some are teachers, some are laborers, some are doctors or nurses, some own businesses. None work at a casino - the nearest one is a half-day's drive away.
You can shove your racist stereotypes back where they came from.
And I still want to know why YOU think Redskins selling ciggypoos to their fellow Redskins is good thing, Tiny.
Why is it a bad thing? Racist fuckwit.
"I will not buy this record, it is scratched. My hovercraft is full of eels."
Man, now you've got me thinking of Monty Python, what with all this talk of tobacconists.
"I call Indians (the red ones) unemployed assholes."
I call any asshole without a job, an unemployed asshole. Regarding you, the only question is whether or not you have a job.
"There are way too many Indians around that do no work,"
That makes them unemployed, but not necessarily assholes.
"and leech off of welfare"
Or, maybe, they use welfare assistance because they can't get a job and don't want their families to starve. Using an assistance program doesn't automatically make one a "leech."
"and enjoy the fact that they don't have to pay taxes,"
Is that true? Do they not pay taxes?
"just because they whine about how their "land" was wrongfully stolen from them and how their customs were destroyed, despite the fact that We made their life infinately better."
Your putting quotation marks around "land" implies that you don't believe that the land is real.
"Wrongfully stolen?" Can something be rightfully stolen?
Maybe their lives ARE better, but that's really not the point. Besides, your premise that they are all unemployed hardly sounds like their lives are "infinately better."
Algore Lib Nutcase,
Do I Look Like A Peanut??
DONT, call me OR my people "Redskins"
We are not peanuts, we are PEOPLE.
What the fuck is/are "ciggypoos"
Are you trying to say 'cigarette'? But you are too stupid to spell it (or pronounce it) .
Again, you must work very hard to avoid reality like that
Oh the poor white man. He did all that work saving the redskin and the black man and the yellow man and the Pacman and none of them bear him any good will or even said thank you. Don't you see, we were just spreading our good civilization when we conquered the rest of the world? Exploiting the natives and taking their natural resources was just compensation for our time and effort.
Y'know, I could repurpose this screed with any other racial minority real easy like.
Wow, something's stirred up Algore real bad. Wonder if he has to shout so loud to drown out the guilt?
Well, he's a troll, pure and simple. He doesn't actually believe or even really think about what he's saying; it's all just trying to stir people up.
What Al doesn't realize is that FSTDT is a friggin' lightning rod for people like him. We are all pretty much immune by now to this kind of stuff. He likely doesn't even realize how high the Amusement and Irony Meters are on all these replies. He will get bored and go away eventually and we will all look forward to the next manchild with an internet connection that thinks they are the first person to ever think of coming here and trolling.
And frankly, Al isn't even in the top 20 Excellent Trolls we've had.
By the way, the majority of Native American tribes do not own or operate casinos, and the vast majority of casino patrons are Anglos. You see a Native American, a Hispanic, or an African American in one of these places and you've most likely just seen an employee.
And while I agree that many of the problems on the reservations are cyclical and self-sustaining, the trail of blame for that eventually winds up at the feet of the US Congress who forced them onto the reservations to begin with. And anyone know why Al is upset about Native Americans smoking? That one just confuses me, if he hates them so much, wouldn't he want them to all get cancer and die?
So you still think it's a good thing that redskins INTENTIONALLY sell cancer sticks to their fellow redskins, Tiny??
Do you think it's a bad thing? And if so, why is it bad? Is it bad because they're Indians, or bad because cigarettes are bad?
Well, we wouldn't know, since we weren't particularily interested in their culture and know very little of their history before the white man came.
You're not even fun to pretend to debate with. Repeating yourself and calling people poo-names... very inspired.
>>#131176
The simple answer is that since native americans did not have the same types of disease that the europeans had, they lacked specific antibodies to prevent infection. If someone from the 1700s was to visit today, they too would have a hell of a time with our diseases and us with theirs.
Aside from you being a troll, you don't even understand the concepts of how infectious disease works and are more intent on blowing your load on seeing people respond to your asshattery.
In conclusion, fuck off and die.
You keep saying "LOL @ yew!" Childish expressions and misspelled words really don't bolster our opinion of you any.
And, Algore, why do you keep harping on cigarettes? Yes, we all know they're bad stuff. But they're still legal. Anyone can walk into a reservation smoke shop and buy them. It doesn't matter whether you're a Native or not.
And then you complain about Natives doing...something...I don't know what exactly your problem is, but you seem to have a lot of animosity toward them. You rag on them for being poor, for being unemployed, and for being on welfare, and yet when they open casinos, smoke shops, and gas stations, and actually work for a living, you rag on that too. Will you please make up your mind?
Hey, I can answer questions myself - I'm not here all the time. I do have a a life, you know. And if you want my opinion anyone who smokes is an eejit ... but I still don't get why Indians selling them to other Indians is somehow worse than white Americans selling them to other white Americans.
Incidentally, you need to sharpen up your troll skills, Al. Just shouting adolescent insults doesn't cut it, you know.
I don't know if Bobdole has any particular animosity towards Native Americans...I think he's just actively taking positions against anything we say. Trolling, in other words.
Personally, I think that when you wipe out millions and millions of people, nearly the entire population of two continents, through genocide and biological warfare...well, a little kindness and respect isn't that freaking much to ask.
How does so much ignorance get trapped in your head, Al?
Yes they had diseases - that their immune systems were capable of fighting, and thus diseases that wouldn't necessarily kill them.
Europeans brought new diseases their immune systems had never fought, and therefore could not effectively fight. Those diseases killed them.
And when Europeans figured this out, they purposely gave TB infected blankets to Indians to kill them off faster than actually fighting them.
Read. A. Book.
So the whole thing boils down to the fact that Al there is pissed that Native Americans don't pay taxes on cigarette purchases? That's it? What the hell, is he just angry that he has to pay the taxes? Or is he angry that the government isn't getting its cut from the sale of cigarettes on Reservations? And why the hell does he keep calling them "ciggypoos?" What, is he five?
I find it amusing on the ironies here:
1.) Al calls Indians sacred cows ironic seeing as the name is a misnomer that even Native Americans tend to not care as much (according to polls) when the Hindus (which are mostly Indians, though there are a lot of Muslim Indians) believe the cow is sacred.
2.) He complains about cigarettes but technically Tobacco (which I enjoy as Cowboy Killers) is the reason we have had massive slavery and imperialism from Europe in these parts.
3.) He complains about their casinos and other business ventures but has yet to propose an plan to help our fellow Americans better themselves from the crap they have been dealt.
Al, if you ever walk into a casino, either in Las Vegas or Oklahoma, you'll see a majority of the slot machine patrons are....get ready for a shocker since I doubt you are old enough to enjoy any of the "vices" you have blasted: OLD WHITE WOMEN.
By the way, you are a dumbass and I can outdo you at trolling. I'm a pro when it comes to doing it.
Sandman, I doubt the boy is old enough to even have to pay taxes.
Well, the Indians certainly never had to deal with diseases that WIPED OUT OVER HALF OF THEIR FUCKING POPULATION before Europeans came over here.
They also never had to deal with reserevations, a loss of cultural identity, residential schools, or (in the case of the South American Indians) being slaughtered enmasse (whether by disease or by the sword) for their precious gold.
Interesting how someone
1) Doesn't have a problem with genocide.
2) Is the first to invoke the name of hitler.
3) Doesn't DENY that he/she's an ignorant, racist fuckwit.
You tell us some things about you by attempting to bait someone over the internet, and you tell us even more by what you DON'T say. You're about as see-through pathetic as they come.
You're not even in the same league as some of the trolls seen here. Don't worry, junior high should help to expand your vocabulary and reasoning skills.
Nutcase: How precisely are people on a primarily atheist website who respond to your trolling, trolls themselves?
I am going to assume that you are a child or in some way intellectually disadvantaged; since you seem unable to behave in a mature manner when your ignorant racism is met with reasonable though vehement opposition.
In case you are unable to spell the words corrently:
Ciggypoo is spelled: cigarette, ciggypoo appears in no dictionary that I have been able to find.
yew is spelled: you, yew is a type of tree.
I don't want to sink to your level but for one moment I will. Please place a plastic bag tightly over your head, when it starts to hurt that means it's working so keep it up til you have joined the flying spaghetti monster and are no longer a burden to the human race.
Have a nice day:)
Ah, the voice of the Atheist Fundie...
Don't you LOSER Atheists ever do ANYTHING even remotely resembling debate and intellectual discourse??
Wasn't there some story about a pot calling a kettle black?
Well, at least you're not a LOSER atheist. Just a loser.
I hope you get beaten to death by Native Americans, PS i am one. Lets just hope you stay there in Canada, and me in Texas, because if i ever move to Canada, ill be the last person youll want to see.
Wow, that's arrogant, racist crap!
I wonder how you would react if someone stole your land, stopped you roaming and made you live on reservations?
Oh, shut up, you ignorant, shameless, horribly stupid imbecile.
Of course, I can only assume ComradeRedFerret knows that the stereotypes he just spewed out like so much bile are inherently correct because he's spent a significant amount of time in and around Indian reservations, right?
Or perhaps he's a worthless asshole.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
To post a comment, you'll need to Sign in or Register . Making an account also allows you to claim credit for submitting quotes, and to vote on quotes and comments. You don't even need to give us your email address.