I also understand why atheist professors would be unwilling to debate their reasons for rejecting religions like Christianity. Back in my days as an atheist, speaking truthfully on a panel would have required a public admission that I rejected Christianity largely because it would not have allowed me to continue getting drunk and high every night while splitting time between four girlfriends.
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Way to use "atheism" as a cop out for your own personal demons (aka addiction).
BTW: You're still an alcoholic, drug head cheater...u just now have jeebus to hide behind...loser
I rejected Christianity largely because it would not have allowed me to continue getting drunk and high every night while splitting time between four girlfriends.
We atheists should be so lucky as to have those things as our obstacles to faith... I'm stuck with only reason and self-respect as mine :(
I think it's more they're unwilling to debate their reasons for rejecting religions like Christianity because it's a stupid question and they have better things to do with their time.
Seriously, religion is not a default position! One has to accept it before one can reject it. Some people really do never accept it in the first place.
Henceforth, these sorts of fundies are going to be known to me as Weightwatchers Fundies.
"Before Christ/SlimShake, I was 350lbs/alcoholic/high-as-a-kite/homosexual/a rapist. Now, after only a month using new Christ(TM)/SlimShake, I'm a walking skeleton/a fundie teetotal, reformed meth-head/FundieStraight(TM)/celibate"
Just delete as applicable. Equally commercial, equally unconvincing.
Mr. Adams, the hard truth is that those were stupid reasons to be an atheist, and I say that having been where you are: I once converted to Christianity on a combination of the argument from the anthropic principle, my shock that the Bible wasn't a totally immoral book, and rebellion. Those were reasons equally as lame as yours. Keep searching and keep an open mind; you may find compelling reasons to consider the possibility that you were right the first time.
You were then simply a fucked up individual who knew nothing about atheism or its definition. You also apparently know nothing about christianity either.
I reject christianity because it is an exclusive club centered around a vindictive, vengeful god who cares nothing for the human race he supposedly created.
No drinking, getting high or splitting time between partners there.
I hate this tripe. The "When I was..." argument has got to be the most slanderous fallacy I know because it hides behind the facade of a soul baring confession, but in reality, just ends up being a quick and easy way of attributing horrors and atrocities to whatever group you want.
Hey, I'm an atheist, where's my booze, dope, and chicks?
You were doing pretty well, up until that "four girlfriends" thing. Looks like you let your own desperate, wishful thinking impinge on your ability to concoct a plausible lie about your false former atheism.
Maybe athiest professors recognize that such debates are both tedious and exasperating.
Fundies are such cowards and babies. Who the fuck needs an excuse to have sex and do drugs as an adult? If you are scared of your mama finding out after you are over 21 then you have much greater issues than drugs or your sexlife! Grow up!PS I've seen your picture, those must have been four desperate women.
I don't drink, don't dope, and I don't fuck anybody but my wife. I still reject christianity, even more so now than when I drank, doped, and was single. (if that's possible)
Hey douchebag, I'm an atheist and I abhor drinking and smoking and am married. This is patent bullshit; I don't "use atheism" to justify doing these things, and, in fact, have better reasons for not doing them than you do, since mine are based on reasons and yours are based on made up fantasies. Go fuck yourself.
Man, you were off the wall in your day! But here's a hint: A lot of us where like that too, but we also grew out of it, sans Bog. No magic there.
If you need a finger-wagging skydaddy to get you to shape up, it puts your maturity into question, IMHO.
So, are you making the assumption that ALL atheists are like you? Wait, of course you are, stupid question, my bad. I, a militant agnostic, reject christianity and all other organized religions because they make no sense. Simple as that.
I don't drink very much and never to excess. I quit cigarettes nearly 3 years ago. I only tried pot a few times and quite frankly it didn't do anything for me. As for sex, I'm gay and I can't imagine, if there were a god, why he/she/it would be interested in my sex life (or lack thereof).
If "finding god" helps you deal with your youthful indiscretions, then fine, I'm happy for you. But don't come in here full of assumptions and self-righteousness and expect to convert anyone. We have heard it all before and nothing short of ironclad evidence that organized religion is anything other than a cultish form of social engineering will change of our minds.
As an atheist who does not drink, smoke, or do drugs and is in a committed, monogamous relationship I beg to differ.
No true atheist(tm)
I'm no drinker... one or two sips at a birthday or newyears and that's pretty much it, and most of the alcohol I buy's purely used in cooking (and that won't get you drunk, what with the evaporation and all).
I don't smoke, can't stand that crap. Don't do drugs, the two times I tried'em didn't feel a thing other than the nasty smell/taste of the smoke, and would never actually spend money on this (I've nothing against those that do enjoy pot now and then though)
And, probably because my own moral and ethical values stem from reasoning, goodwill and the standard "don't fuck others up" golden rule (one I do believe your Jesus guy kept preaching, to your now obviously deaf ears), I'm quite monogamous, thank you.
also... "largely because it would not have allowed me to continue getting drunk and high every night while splitting time between four girlfriends." << sounds like he's saying "if he hadn't rejected it" he could've kept doing so...
which given what we usually end up seeing on the news makes more sense than what he was probably trying to lie about.
"Did anyone else notice that he has a book for sale on Amazon called "Feminists Say the Darndest Things: A Politically Incorrect Professor Confronts "Womyn" on Campus"? Plagerize much?"
Yes!
The fucker bashes feminists in every other column I've ever seen him write. He wrote a whole article about how talking to feminists (ie: strong women) gives him erectile dysfunction!
"would not have allowed me to continue getting drunk and high every night while splitting time between four girlfriends."
Yeah right, like you could get four women. Liar.
You still can continue getting drunk and high every night while splitting time between four girlfriends :) I've seen other christians do it, well maybe not the four girlfriends bit, but then again, who honestly believes that?
Just because you were a hedonistic worthless druggie doesn't mean all atheists are hedonistic worthless druggies. If indeed this story is true, which I rather doubt.
I'm an atheist, I drink very little, I do not smoke or do drugs, I'm a virgin. If you knew me in real life and we never discussed religion it is unlikely that you would ever know what I believe. I reject religion because it makes no sense to me, not because I have any hedonistic habits I need to excuse.
It is a shallow atheism indeed that sees morality solely in selfish terms. Granted that there is nothing particularly objectionable about having four girlfriends as long as everyone is cool with the arrangement (a big if, mind), but playing the Dr. Laura card in an attempt to prove your point makes you look like a shallow blowhard.
Then again, this is the same guy who tries to compensate for his shrunken testicles by threatening to take meek students out for hunting trips.
atheism is not tantamount to hedonism.
Sure, but it's a lot more fun when you mix some hedonism in anywys...
Everything in moderation. Especially moderation.
I rejected Christianity largely because it would not have allowed me to continue getting drunk and high every night while splitting time between four girlfriends.
So is he arguing against Chritianity now or something because I'm not going to lie that sounds like a hell of a lot of fun.
"I also understand why atheist professors would be unwilling to debate their reasons for rejecting religions like Christianity."
So do I. My reasons for rejecting Christianity, though open for discussion , aren't up for debate. They are my reasons, that's not debatable.
Reason #1: The whole f***ink story is ludicrous! I mean, really, Goldilocks and the 3 Bears is more realistic!
What about their reason for rejecting religions like Islam?
Going from agnostic to atheist changed nothing in my life, but the belief/non-belief in gods. I'm still married to the only man I have ever had sex with, I drink neither more nor less and I have never done drugs.
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So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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