Well, Mr. Atheist, you've got me cornered. I'll admit that. I do not, however, admit defeat. The fact that I am aware and I can imagine is proof enough that there is a God. As J. R. R. Tolkien said, the imagination brings one closer to the Divine.
As for the wolf-kid, there was another incident like that in France. A boy lived in the woods for 13 or so years and was finally found. They taught him social things and manners, but he never fully became a "regular person". I think he died around 20. This proves that man needed an intelligent source to learn from. That is, God. [...]
I think your "extrapolation" for the non-existence of God is more ludicrous.
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<<As for the wolf-kid, there was another incident like that in France. A boy lived in the woods for 13 or so years and was finally found. They taught him social things and manners, but he never fully became a "regular person". I think he died around 20. This proves that man needed an intelligent source to learn from. That is, God. [...]
"As for the wolf-kid, there was another incident like that in France. A boy lived in the woods for 13 or so years and was finally found. They taught him social things and manners, but he never fully became a "regular person". I think he died around 20. This proves that man needed an intelligent source to learn from. That is, God."
"J. R. R. Tolkien said, the imagination brings one closer to the Divine."
If God is such a necessary part of human life, why did the omnipotent, omniscient, good and loving God, whose judgements are true and righteous altogether, let this poor boy languish alone in the woods for 13 years?
The point of the post he was replying to was that "feral" children, when recovered from the wilds, and after learning speech, had no conception whatever of the "divine", or had developed any sort of "religious" behaviours. They need interaction with brainwashing religious teachers to develop that concept.
@Wander
As for the wolf-kid, there was another incident like that in France. A boy lived in the woods for 13 or so years and was finally found. They taught him social things and manners, but he never fully became a "regular person". I think he died around 20. This proves that man needed an intelligent source to learn from. That is, God. [...]
So in a flying somersault of logic, Wander says that wolf-kids are proof of God, and the other person's extrapolation is ludicrous?
NtC What do you mean, Tolkein wasn't God's messenger boy? He wrote Lord of the Rings, right? LotR is a much better book than the Bible. Of course, Tolkein wasn't a "real" prophet/messenger when compared to Douglas Adams, Dave Barry, and the Pythons. (*Dodges tomatoes thrown by LotR fans.*)
"If he lived in the woods for 13 years and dies at age 20, how doe this proof god? He survived just fine, only to die once introduced into "modern" society."
"The fact that I am aware and I can imagine is proof enough that there is a God."
Sucks that I found this site over a year and a half after this quote, so responding to anyone's comments is largely unnecessary. Still, I'm bored and actually learned some of this recently.
Well if you actually find any evidence, let me know.
And for the wolf kid, it seem oddly coincidental that someone who grew up without human parents and without God turned out like that, while someone who grew up with both turned out normal. Come to think of it, I just had parents. Both of them were atheists too. I think that proves God is not a big player in a child's understanding of the social contract or human behavior.
While we're at it, I imagine there is proof for the existence of the Celestial Teapot, and since there's no evidence against it, it must be there.
oooh, this reminds me of the french wolf-boy who was raised in a monastery in the middle ages. he ate babies, and wore a wolf skin that the lord of the forest gave him. true story, look it up.
"This proves that man needed an intelligent source to learn from."
No, it proves how crucial nurturing and human interaction is in the early years of a human's life.
@NotMe
20 is damn old for a dog, especially outdoors. If the kid thought he was one, he had a good run.
Actually that just proves that young children need social contact with other humans to develop properly. This has been known by psychologists for decades.
The brain is primed to learn language for about the first 7 years of life, if a child isn't given exposure to language during that time they won't be able to pick up language very well if they are exposed to it later in life.
"The fact that I am aware and I can imagine is proof enough that there is a God. As J. R. R. Tolkien said, the imagination brings one closer to the Divine."
Arthur C. Clarke and Isaac Asimov were possessed of great imaginations too.
They were Atheists.
"I think your "extrapolation" for the non-existence of God is more ludicrous."
And the notion that your 'God' did something as hyper-complex as 'create' this universe, this world & all the life on it, but he can't do something as ultra-easy as actually show himself in physical form (and no, not 'Jesus', God himself) isn't , hmmmmmm?
(*pats Wander on head *) Now you go back to your ninja cartoon dear, the adults are talking.
Well, Mr. Atheist, you've got me cornered. I'll admit that. I do not, however, admit defeat.
The fact that I am aware and I can imagine is proof enough that there is a God.
As for the wolf-kid, there was another incident like that in France. A boy lived in the woods for 13 or so years and was finally found. They taught him social things and manners, but he never fully became a "regular person". I think he died around 20. This proves that man needed an intelligent source to learn from. That is, God.
“Well, Mr. Atheist, you've got me cornered. I'll admit that. I do not, however, admit defeat.”
“The fact that I am aware and I can imagine is proof enough that there is a God.”
"As J. R. R. Tolkien said, the imagination brings one closer to the Divine.”
“This proves that man needed an intelligent source to learn from. That is, God."
“I think your "extrapolation" for the non-existence of God is more ludicrous.”
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