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Simulacrum #fundie forums.narutofan.com

Specifically, as these doctors were not willing to help the homosexual become pregnant (not just refusing to treat her in general), and modern research would justify them on this issue on multiple fronts.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2004/apr/040428c.html
Again, while I am against homosexuality primarily based on valid religious reasons, I'm not advocating homophobia like you were spewing earlier. I'm simply saying that these doctors shouldn't be forced by law to do something when that something has so much going against it. The fact that you can't understand the difference is due to your social stigma, not mine. I only made this post as a last attempt to get you to see reason here, but if your previous posts are any indication it's a wasted effort. Go ahead and get in the last word, because I'm not going to respond to you anymore.

Simulacrum #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[On the woman who won the court battle regarding doctors discriminating against LGBT]

"Religious and theological justifications are only grounds for discrimination if its discrimination you agree with. Gotcha."

And you're insinuating that all discrimination is wrong.

Black Fenix #fundie forums.narutofan.com

(Note: Black Fenix defined Zina (Arabic term, apparently) as extramarital sex, and the punishment for it as death)

Zina is a sin not because of honour but because it causes many problems within the community (just look at all the stories where people met there own family members without realising) and with causes a lot of problems with many of the other laws in Islam (Inheritance etc).

You don't know what Zina is and are arguing about this.

Also before you ask I do agree with the punishment for Zina.

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[On George Carlin]

That's too bad. I'm sorry to hear that he DIED. But ya know, I think he's down there right now, screaming up at us. He was funny when he wasn't bashing God, the Bible or Christianity. In accordance with his wishes, I will NOT keep him in my thoughts.

Simulacrum #fundie forums.narutofan.com

You're partly right but mostly mistaken. Public schools don't discriminate against any particular religion: they discriminate against every religion. And it's not just that the proven minor adaptations are being taught in public schools, it's that unproven and impractical concepts of total naturalism, under the blanket term "evolution", are being shoved down students throats as if it were the gospel truth.

Cardboard Tube Knight #fundie forums.narutofan.com

And for your argument about the children, which everyone brings up. If they starve and die, and even if they know nothing of God they're going to Heaven. So its not like their suffering is in vain.

[ME: So, if I brutally beat you up and then give you candy, its all good, right?]

I doubt that the momentary satisfaction of candy compares to eternal fucking bliss.

Why do atheists use these bogus analogies and expect no one to notice the obvious flaw?

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

(you're an idiot who disagrees with 99% of the scientific community.)

If 99% of the scientific community disagrees with me, then that makes them the idiots, not me. Believe it!

And yes you can put that in your sig, because the reason why the U.S.A.'s population has gone up so much is because of illegal immigration.

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

(Can you choose to get a boner when you see Brad Pitt? If not, then shut up. Provide evidence or admit defeat.)

No I cannot choose that because I know that even trying to would be wrong. By my scientific calculations, all homosexuals would have to do is realize the same thing, and proof! No more homosexuality in those people. All they need to do is choose to be straight and then work at it! They can suppress their immoral desires until they go away completely! Then they can live normal lives. It is really that simple.

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

(Conservative Christians hold most of the blame for the GLBT suicide rate.)

WRONG! It's actually homophobes like YOU that are to blame for gay people killing themselves. Why, if it weren't for homophobes like you, people who are gay would come to realize that they are in control of their own lives and have the ability to change if they put forth the effort. But no, people like you brainwash them and keep them stupid. You keep them decieved and make them think that they can't change no matter how hard they want to and no matter how hard they try.

You keep them enslaved to a sinful, dangerous, and depressing deathstyle! You are the homophobes, not the Christians. We are the only ones looking out for their wellbeing and their lives!

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

(Homosexuality is in fact, natural)

Irrelevant. What occurs in nature is not the definition used to define what is natural for humans. We mean what is natural for humans is what is good and productive for humans. What animals do is irrelevant, since animals do many sick and barbaric things as well. Therefore, homosexuality is not natural for humans.

LatinMan! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

I have not yet had to learn evolution in Biology 1. But I do not wish to learn it in my podunk school. However, I think that it has a place in our schools so we can better understand it. I am just saying that the Theory of Creation should be taught instead of the Hypothesis of Evolution...

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

Science has found that the Earth is older than the sun.

The Bible stated the Earth was older than the sun before science proved it.

I win.

[After his posting sources and his sources being debunked, with material already accounting for the following reasoning:]

Your sources are wrong. You also leave out the fact that the current age is an underestimate, since scientists believe the Earth is actually much older than that because it recycles its own mass. So I still win.

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[On Pregnant Women Drinking]

Oooooh but it's their body, they should be allowed to do whatever they want.

Seriously though, pregnant women should not be allowed to drink, smoke, or do drugs, and any that do should be institutionalized where they will be strapped to a bed for the rest of their pregnancy and force fed, and then after they give birth they receive a mandatory procedure to tie their tubes until they prove that they are fit mothers. Believe it!

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

Wrong. The fact we are a melting pot means that all those who are different from us join in and adapt or assimilate to our way of life. Diversity is not promoted in a melting pot because unmixed materials have a weak structure. Perhaps you are thinking of a chamber pot, which America is not.

Diversity is perversity.

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[About a science teacher that was forced to resign after mentioning a lecture critical of ID]

GOOD! Throw the bum out on the streets!

She has no business teaching kids about false and backwards ideas such as evolution, which Charles Darwin even said is impossible without God's power to guide it.

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

I would not want that kind of life for my kid or anyone else's.

The hatred people feel towards gays is nothing. Gay people don't have it harder than anyone else.

People who are gay can help it and it is in their power to control what they are attracted to and how they act.

People are going to be mean to my kids even if they are straight. People stink. There is nothing anyone can do about mean people.

If my kid choses to be homosexual, I would rather him or her repent and seek God's help in order to act normally as heterosexuals. I would also be involved in saving my child from the homosexual deathstyle. However, none of my kids will ever be gay, because I will raise them correctly. Believe it!

Drkfire #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[On a girl that was jailed with and raped by multiple men. Note: this portion of the post is colored white to make it less visible, just highlight it.]

This is why it tells us in the Bible to protect women and to keep them under guidance. This kind of thing is liable to happen if we get too femenistic.

Urahara Kisuke ^_^ #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[In response to: "Learn a bit more about evolution please. *link* You don't seem to have a very good grasp of it. If nothing else, it can help determine if your arguments are valid or not."]
I don't really care whether or not my argument is valid or not, I just want to get the point across that I am Christian, and I don't care what others say, I'm not changing my belief. Other than that, I'm just bored.

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[Ever the bigot, Believe It! comments on same-sex love]

But that is what I mean. Love can be shared between anyone, regardless of gender, age, race, religion, etc. However, love is caring for others and wanting to help them and be there for them. Love is laying down your life for someone.

But when that love crosses the line into romantic, physical, or sexual love, that is when same-sex relationships become wrong. And that kind of love is more like lust because the genders are incompatible with their own kind in these ways. That should not be the basis for marriage either.

The Unforgiven #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[In response to "why do you [Muslims] stone your people and treat so bad your women?"]

We do not stone people off the street to fulfill our monthly moon ritual. We stone them because of something they have committed themselves. The religion plainly says :don't do this or you will be stoned. If you want to be part of the religion, you must abode by the rules.

As for the treating women badly: You cannot judge. You are not a woman living under those rules. If you were, then you can say that they are treated bad.

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[Sexism for Jesus!]
It is not sexist, it is reality. The man is to be the head of the household and the leader of his wife. The wife is to be a supporter for her husband and a help to him. This is the setting that works, and it is the one that has worked for centuries.

SwordDancer #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[In response to "There's also the issue of indoctrination - if your religion is true, is it fair for God to punish those that were taught as children that a different religion is the true religion?"]

For the last one, I would say yes because that is justice. If the law is true, then the law has the right to punish whoever misinterpreted it or just straight up ignored it. Also, they had plenty of time to find about Christianity, which is by the way, not a religion but a relationship, and are smart enough to research about it. If they did not, then it's not God's fault, its theirs and they must pay the consequences for their actions. One should not blame something like this on God but rather on themselves because there is no reason not to find about Christianity.

Edicius #fundie forums.narutofan.com

i think evolution is false cuz it hasnt been proven yet. darwin wrote a book about how he thinks man might have come to be and everybody believes him.
if i were a scientist and i wrote a book about how vegetation can communicate with ppl telepathicly would u believe me? also evolution contradicts itself. i dont know wat its called but there is a certain beetle that is so odd they could not find anything it could have possibly evolved from. there have been fossilized footprints found of a mans footprint stepping on a small animal (again i cant remember wat its called i'm not a scientist) that shouldve been extinct millions of years before man came into existence. also if man was so simple and were prehistoric cavemen when they first came into existence why did the fosilized footprint have shoes? also in the bible (might i remind u the bible is not a religious book but is instead a history book written over one thousand to four thousand years ago) the book of Job chapter 40 verses 15-19 it mentions dinosaurs while man was existent. there is no real proof to evolution being real. so if creationism isnt real, find a new theory cuz your wrong.

there the christian has answered.

Man With Fox #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[Quoted Post: "I am athiest that is crap. "virgins can't get pregnant". I lol at you for this one. if virgins can't get pregnant then there would be no humans on earth. and a world wide flood? polar icecaps melt and the only thing left above water is the peak of mount everest or something."]

THEY CAN IF GOD REAWAKENS THE MALE ORGANS INSIDE A WOMEN LIKE MARY
see every man and woman have both organs the natural occurance is one shrivels .in one family in peru the girls who were meant to be boys dropped their male organs about 10-12 because they have a faulty gene .that usually is in early stages of pregnancy

but what i am talking about is supernatural event when god cause mary's sperm to impregnate her

you see there is a phrophecy that the seed [sperm] of the woman would chrush the head of the serpant [satan]. that seed would be the christ. you have to remember who you are dealing with here.it wouldnt be that hard for god to do.funny after all this time with all the sinical remarks science makes the possibility fathomable. just last year House the tv show did 2-3 shows on this .
how did a preacher preach on the verse that the angel would make it so all the world could see for three straight days the bodys of the two witnesses killed by anti christ before they arose. well satalites and cnn will cover that all three days when those pains are killed. how would a back woods preacher teach that in 1810. why would any one believe that.you'de have to be an idiot lol

when you are dealing with kohono you need to adjust your reality
when its heaven you might concider alot of leiway concidering the power source

Rild The Hero #fundie forums.narutofan.com

But there are some of us that believe in all powerful God that created this world and He/She/It is beyond logic.

A omnipotent God doesn't need to go by the laws of logic, because nothing is beyond God.

So that's why logic doesn't play a part in Christianity.

I already know what kind of posts are coming next, so I won't be looking at them.

Superrazien #fundie forums.narutofan.com

Well I believe in a god, but lets say your friend was right, or Atheist are right, and religion is only something to comfort us when we die. That must make Atheist, real assholes, alot of atheists like to convert believers and diss religion ect.. so that just means they don't want you to feel good about dieing they want you to suffer, so if your friend is right then that must make atheists fucking pricks.

SwordDancer #fundie forums.narutofan.com

I just don't undestand why people believe evolution, as in macro-evolution, is the more logical answer when no one has even seen it happen or truly 100% prove it. In science, everything that has been proven can happen anyday, like chemical science, physics, and even biology to an extent. Macro-evolution because then you would see it and even logically, it's far-fetched and requires even MORE faith than creation. Micro-evolution is true because it deals with genetics and it has shown to be true since it explains how someone grows or adapts and the Bible does not go against it at all (Surprising, isn't it?).

To me, it seems people only want to believe in macro-evolution is because it allows them not to believe in God, basically gives them some sort of reason to not believe in God, and I believe that it's childish.

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[Slightly old, but, still amusing. Hadn't read it out fully]
No I do not believe that evolution exists on the small scale. Adaptation exists, but that is not evolution. “Evolution” denotes progress, which if you believe that happens in nature then you're flat out wrong. Things can go forward or backward. The problem with evolution is that it requires some all knowing force behind it to make everything advance. If this were all left up to random occurrence or chance, then things would not be this perfect and balanced. Things would die out and take other things with them. Plus, even if you were right, it would only prove that one species can better itself to become a stronger form of the same species, not that the species turns into another one, or splits off into five different species that begin to evolve.

Zhero #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[In response to some comments I made on my blog about: [fstdt]18107[/fstdt]]
how can the truth be hollow bro.. Forreal, if my son were gay id tell him the same thing. but regardless, if it even were my child that was that kids age and he told me that, and committed suicide because i didnt accept him. that jus proves my point about gays wanting attention and if they dont get it stuff like this happens. but if a child is old enough to make decisions about his sexuality then he has to hold himself accountable for his decisions. Im sorry if thats harsh but im going thru something similar at this moment.

[Emphasis Mine]

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

(In the fantastic world of Believe It!, by definition, homosexuals are liberals)

Republicans seem to be facing an epidemic of closet perverts coming out and showing their true colors at the party's expense. Craig, who was caught trying to solicit gay sex then tried to get out of it by making up bogus excuses that no one would believe. Worst part of it is, he's married. Such a thing as this is the ultimate betrayal, not only to his country, his state, his people, but to his family and his wife. He is a sneaking tail dragging cur, and we should do with him what we do with all RINO of this party.

Now, you're innocent until proven guilty, but I really think he is guilty. I hope he isn't, but then again I hoped he wouldn't have been a few other things. He's a liberal in a republican's suit. So if he is guilty then I say...

CRUCIFY HIM!!!

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[Wow. Just wow. Lie for Jesus Award?]
Fossilized human footprints beside fossilized dinosaur footprints have been rejected at first glance by scientists already. They have made it clear that any evidence that may prove them wrong is not to be considered by anyone. There just is no convincing them. Dinosaur bones are also rejected by all radiocarbon dating testers out of hand simply because they don't think there can be any C-14 in them. So to get them tested scientists had to lie and say they were chicken bones or something. When the bones were tested it showed that they dated back to only about 5,000 to 6,000 years. Which matches the Bible, which documents the existence of dinosaurs.

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[Ever the bigot, Believe It! comments on Muslims.]
I will now give my solutions to this.

No more Muslims immigrants in this country for an indefinite amount of time.
No more mosques built in this country.
Tear down all mosques that do not match city codes.
Declare Islam a cult, not a religion to be respected under the first amendment.
Bring back racial profiling in suspecting Muslims.
Investigate all foreign born Arabic people in this country and intern all those who have ties to Islam until they are found to have no ties to any terrorist organization.
If the ACLU protests, disband the ACLU and throw them in Guantanamo prison with their terrorist friends.
Investigate CAIR as a criminal organization and throw them in the same place when terrorist ties are found.

Believe It! #fundie forums.narutofan.com

[Speaks for itself]
Your rejection of religion has nothing to do with the fact that you won't kill people. You don't try to kill people because you don't have the power to, at least, not without losing your own life in the process. Therefore, you cannot assert your version of morality over them. If your version of morality states that people should not murder others, then I am afraid you hold a moral that was influenced by Biblical law. Moreover, if someone has the power to kill you, then your idea of morality becomes incorrect. How you like that?