Hey, women, wake up! Face the fact that you are the more vulnerable of the two sexes. Face the fact that your dress, your manner and your behavior can be provocative. Realize that men are not real smart and that they are programmed to respond to sexy women. Sometimes, those men haven't the where-with-all to understand the word, 'no.' Just as everyone should avoid 'occasions of sin,' women should avoid occasions of sexual stupidity.
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Realize that men are not real smart...
Bullshit, stop imposing your traits on the rest of us. Believe it or not I have never raped a woman and have controlled myself from leaping on the nearest person with a vagina.
Hey CS, you're speaking for yourself when you say that "men are not smart..."
That doesn't give you an excuse to think with your testicles.
If you can't control your urges, kindly give your balls to your mama, she can carry them in her purse for you.
The most vulnerable of the sexes?, if a man is unable to understand urges and the meaning of the word no, I can't even think what will his IQ be. Come on, everybody knows now why Mata-Hari was the best spy in the world.
Blame-the-victim Award.
No-brainer.
Damn edit button I thought of a wittier response.
Lawer: Sir did you rape that woman?
Man: Yes I confess.
Lawyer: Did you also proceed to cut her wrists and throat until she died of blood loss
Man: Yes.
Lawyer: And did you then cut out her stomach and spill the contents of it into her head so the acid would melt her brain into a semi-solid mass that you then made into a smoothie.
Man: Yes.
Lawyer: You are truly a horrible sick person. What do you have to say in your defense?
Man: She was dressed provcativly.
If they're as stupid as you say they are, they should be institutionalized for their own safety...
But they aren't, and you fail.
"Hey, women, wake up! Face the fact that you are the more vulnerable of the two sexes."
Chyna is more vulnerable than me?!
"Face the fact that your dress, your manner and your behavior can be provocative."
And men's can't?
"Realize that men are not real smart and that they are programmed to respond to sexy women. Sometimes, those men haven't the where-with-all to understand the word, 'no.'"
Speak for yourself, sex fiend. If you can't see a woman dressed attractively without ramming your crotch into her, the problem lies with you, bot her. Some of us males are capable of controlling our baser impulses.
"Just as everyone should avoid 'occasions of sin,' women should avoid occasions of sexual stupidity."
Too bad you couldn't.
Most men "respond to sexy women" by introducing themselves, complimenting them on their appearance, asking them out, saying apallingly bad pickup lines, etc..
Men who "respond to sexy women" by forcing themselves upon them don't really belong in the same category.
I've no problem whatsoever keeping control around even pretty naked girls flirting with me.
... According to this... person... I should've comitted rape countless times already.
Obviously I must simply be too fucking stupid to know that they were naked and/or wearing skimpy clothing. I'm just gonna have to learn what skin looks like I guess!
Realize that men are not real smart
Speak for yourself, but I'm intelligent enough not to look at women as sex toys.
1st. I interact with men daily
2nd. I'm pretty hot
I am however smart enough to stay away from Baptist Churches and other fundy meeting centers.
How can you say that men are created to rule over women, when they can't even control their own sexual urges?
and another question - how many women can you rape, after all, you're supposed to marry the girl and be monogamous in your marriage?
Patriarchal bullshit infantilises men, too!
Seriously, lots of men have the ability to not jump on the first pretty/attractive woman they see. In fact, lots of men have the ability to look at attractive women everyday, and don't attack them! Lyke, I know, it's amazing! But men, actually do have a shred of self control!
I always feel suspect of people who assume men don't have much self control at their disposal.
No, those men should understand that "no" fucking means "no". I'm not gonna dress in a goddamned burqa because you think men can't control themselves. If they can't take no for an answer, they need to be locked up.
And getting turned on by the sight of an attractive woman doesn't make you stupid. It might make you act stupid sometimes. (I'm sure most of us have acted stupid because of sexual attraction.) This post is demeaning to both men and women.
Hey, women, wake up!
Kinda have to be awake to listen/read what you have to say.
Face the fact that you are the more vulnerable of the two sexes.
Try saying that to a female marine. They'll put a boot so far up ya, you'll be spitting polish for weeks.
Face the fact that your dress, your manner and your behavior can be provocative.
So can a man's dress, manner, and behavior. It goes both ways bub.
Realize that men are not real smart and that they are programmed to respond to sexy women.
Speak for yourself. I've met many men who are real smart and/or who respond to sexy men .
Sometimes, those men haven't the where-with-all to understand the word, 'no.'
Then they need to learn, don't they? Otherwise they have no reason to complain when the agree to what their cell-mate Bubba wants to do to them.
Just as everyone should avoid 'occasions of sin,' women should avoid occasions of sexual stupidity."
Which they are, by the sounds of it, as they're avoiding you.
Many a fine female kareteka is proving you wrong on a daily basis.
You are a dangerous man, please don't ever come near woman. I, as a "stupid" man, cannot be responsible for my actions which may involve the bashing of your head when you come too close to any kind of female.
Garfield: all of those rules, when stated by a fundie, or any religious person, usually, carry a silent "except me because I'm special and gawd loves me" 'suffix'.
thus: Everyone ELSE mustn't rape little boys.
Everyone ELSE must give to the church.
Everyone ELSE must not lust after other women/men/whatever.
Everyone ELSE must avoid drugs.
Everyone ELSE must not go around having gay sex behind the altar.
Everyone ELSE must be eternally punished for breaking any of those rules.
Wow, this guy just managed to insult 99% of the world's population. That's a good start.
Plus I think he's a) projecting and b) setting up his legal defense in advance.
I've been topless in the same room as a guy who has made it very clear that he finds me extremely attractive.
I did not want sex to happen.
Sex did not happen.
That's because said guy is a good person, and said guy is not you. But I repeat myself.
Clearly, someone has never seen River Tam in action. Or paid attention to the fact that all it takes is a well-placed kick for women to level the playing field.
In other words, men have no brain except the uncontrollable one that's between their legs.
Sexual stupidity is getting drunk with strangers, not showing a little skin or being a bit flirtatious.
I'm not sure how to say this without sounding egocentric, so I won't bother and you all can flame me for my ego.
Right, I have a lot of very attractive female friends. One of them said to me that she was the only one of them who didn't want me, and that I could have my pick of the rest. I haven't slept with a single one of them or even made an advance. Why not? Because I'm faithful to my girlfriend whom, due to the immense distance between us, I only even get to see once a year.
If THAT'S not self-control, I don't know what the fuck is. And yes, I am a man.
You, CS, are just pathetic.
Ah, yes, this is just what we need: an equal opportunity offender.
It's really sad that in their efforts to undermine women in order to boost the egos of men, fundies don't realize that in effect, they are demeaning both genders.
As a man myself, i find it insulting this retard dares to call me dumb.
obviously excluding present company, i do think a pretty large percentage of the male population isn't real smart and WILL run after their penisses, i just seem to have the servere disadvantage i respect women.
(i'm just as horny as the next 20 yo, but that doesn't mean i'd jump every topless/skimpy clothed female that walked in the room)
Sometimes, those men haven't the where-with-all to understand the word, 'no.'
You'd be amazed how quickly a simple knee to the groin allows such "men" to learn that no means no.
Ah yes, the old "I'm a really dim bulb so you should really do what I say" argument.
For those who men who have trouble deciphering female signals, I'll give a little hint: There is no signal a woman can give in public, clothed, from 10 feet away, that means "penetrate me now ". It doesn't exist.
>>Sometimes, those men haven't the where-with-all to understand the word, 'no.' ... women should avoid occasions of sexual stupidity.<<
And should know at least the basics of self defense, if not be able to make any attacker unable to walk or stand.
Or was that not where you were going?
As a man, I am highly offended that you think I am unable to control myself and would be tempted to rape a woman if she showed some skin. A parade of naked women could walk down the street and most men might be aroused, but they wouldn't think about raping them because most men aren't sociopaths.
So, according to this guy: men are violent, impulsive, and incapable of controlling their urges, but WOMEN are the ones who are meant to be slaves.
Only in Fundieland does that make sense.
So, you're saying that we should don burkas and avoid the company of men?
If these men have not learned the meaning of the word No, the problem lies with them, and their parents, not with us. They are the ones with the sexual stupidity. All the men I know are much smarter than your male friends.
People get raped dressed in sweat-pants and large men's shirts. Rapes in parks almost never have anything to do with misunderstandings, and almost always something to do with assault and abuse.
Confused?
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