I'v read the "communist manifesto", don't want no part of no communism, and no part of no socialism. Thank you very much. Jesus wasn't poor, and the "Rich Young Ruler" wasn't told to give all his money to the poor. He was told to, "sell all you have, give to the poor, and follow me". Meaning to sell it all, you will be traveling with Me, and will have no need of having your money here. He also meant that when any money was drawn out, or made, the people were to give to the poor. We, the church have missed that. Christians are suppose to support the orphans and the widows, but we don't, we let the gubment do that. Many leftists/socialists want to make it sound like Jesus was a socialist, however, He wasn't He was a capitalist. The first thing He did with His first Diciples, was to tell them to follow Him and work".
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The first thing He did with His first Diciples, was to tell them to follow Him and work
For food and a roof over their heads in service of the community. Great way for a capitalist to get rich.
You may have "read" the Communist Manifesto, but there is no way in hell that someone who consistantly uses double-negatives and spells "government" as "gubment" (either accidentally or purposefully) has the mental chops to understand it.
And Jesus didn't say "sell all you have, give to the poor, and follow me," he said "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." (Mark 10:21) If that doesn't mean to sell everything and give the money to the poor, then what does it mean?
And Jesus and the disciples lived a near-textbook socialist-communist lifestyle, sharing everything equally.
"All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all. There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned. lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need." (Acts 4: 32-35) In fact, God strikes Ananias and Sapphira dead for not totally sharing their wealth with the other believers equally, (Acts 5: 1-11) much in the same way that Lenin purged hoarders after the Oktober Revolution...
Face it. God's a communist. It's Satan, with his "all for me" attitude that's the capitalist in the Bible...
"I'v read the "communist manifesto", don't want no part of no communism, and no part of no socialism."
Apparently, you don't want anything to do with education, either.
" Jesus wasn't poor, and the "Rich Young Ruler" wasn't told to give all his money to the poor. He was told to, 'sell all you have, give to the poor, and follow me'"
Apparently, you don't want to read your Bible much.
"Many leftists/socialists want to make it sound like Jesus was a socialist, however, He wasn't He was a capitalist. The first thing He did with His first Diciples, was to tell them to follow Him and work"."
Yeah, work for no pay, just for the cause and none of them, even Jesus, made any money. That's not capitalism, that's communism, mbrens.
Lots of good responses so far, but here are some Bible verses that I've used to make conservative Christians change the subject:
Luke 6:30: Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask [them] not again.
Luke 6:34-35: And if ye lend [to them] of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and [to] the evil.
I call Bullshit! You don't seem to have read The "Communist Manifesto" or much of your Bible!Perhaps you should read both before you come here and try to discuss them with people who have obviously read both of them (and in my case, disagree with much of both of them). That is assuming you can read the big words better than you can write them!
"His first Diciples, was to tell them to follow Him and work"
aaaaaaaaaannnd Marx and Engels advocated "Equal liability for all to work" (Point 8 of the 10 point programme) in the Manifesto , which of course you would know if you'd read it. They also believed that "machinery has greatly increased the number of well-to-do idlers." (Marx, Capital Vol I), i.e the rich bourgeois who do not work and get rich off the proletariat's labour.
In other words, you fail Marxism forever.
Confused?
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